BME: Tell me a little about yourself.

JIM: I am 55 years old, have a master's degree in counseling and an undergraduate degree in education with majors in English, Psychology, and Journalism. I have been a teacher in junior and senior high schools (many years ago), a juvenile officer, a professional in the BSA, a social worker/counselor at a hospital for criminally insane doing both therapy and evaluations to see if people were mentally ill when committing crimes, a director of counseling services for a community counseling agency and taught new counselors, developed and directed substance abuse in and out patient treatment programs, directed halfway house programs for inmates, counseled HIV positive inmates in the Missouri prison system, directed a hospice program and I am currently the owner of a recruiting firm.

I left the social service side of things and bought this business after I found myself involved in a federal case that sent me to federal prison for a short period of time. Following that prison time, most programs aimed at reintegrating offenders or counseling have no place for an offender.

BME: What types of procedures do you do?

JIM: I am most comfortable in doing piercings of all kinds with little question, but I also do castrations, urethral changes, subincisions, bifurcations, and all the variety of things that can be done in that area. I have also removed penises by both "stubbing" and by removing all of it. I have also gone in and severed the ligaments that hold the cock erect which had the effect of lengthening the cock after some later stretching and its not standing erect outward.

BME: Do you like the term cutter, or would you prefer to be called something else?

JIM: I don't mind the use of the term "cutter" since it seems to be the best one in use at this time. Most of my contacts were in the "piercer" or "castrator" terms in the past. That has been my greatest level of experience by far. The more serious and severe modifications are fewer and more far between.

BME: What types of clients do you prefer?

JIM: I prefer the ones who come in from referrals since there is often a bit of screening done by the person who has already had the procedure or secured the procedure for his boy/lover/property/slave-or whatever.

BME: How do people get in touch with you?

JIM: I usually like to keep one person between me and the one being done if it is more than piercing. This is especially true after Bodkin. Some will screen very well, while others will refer almost anyone.

BME: How do you decide if a person is ready to have a procedure done?

JIM: I will not do someone who is not sure that he wants to be done or is in such a situation that it is not likely that he will later experience remorse for what he has had done to him. I often give someone who contacts me the name of someone who has had a procedure (other than piercings) and have them talk to them about the ins and outs of what would happen and what their life would be like. Myself, I have the penis head fully split (top and bottom) and can tell them the good things and the difficulties of it. My urethra is stretched to nearly a half inch across, so I can tell them the pleasures and the problems of that procedure and how to do it themselves safely if they so wish.

If they have not been there, I direct them to the BME pages to explore and read and see what they are thinking about.

In the case of those wanting more radical procedures like castrations and penectomies (emasculation) and amputations (don't enjoy doing them that much, though), I want to know if their significant other/spouse knows and agrees. Surprisingly many do not. I also want to know when they began the thought process, and why they want it done. I will often try to talk them out of it. If they are truly serious, and it is an internal desire more than a fantasy or a "self-loathing" kind of thing, I will then put them in touch with someone to discuss what would happen, how they healed, what to expect, and the kind of medical backup that would be needed for removal of stitches, changing of dressings, and a discussion of testosterone replacement or what would be likely to occur if it is not replaced. In some cases, I recommend that they see a doctor to be chemically castrated for a period of time if I detect any waffling over their desire to do it. I assist them with the "story" that they need to tell him in order to get the medication.

I again go over these things with the person when we meet to do the procedure. I also tell them that they will be the one to make the final cut of their testicles. In the case of lovers, it can be the other one who does the second. If they do not have the resolve to do that, then I would question if they had the resolve for me to do it. I have not always followed through with that, but most are quite pleased to be the one to do it.

I am not on a "power trip" to emasculate men. Frankly, I like my "boys with toys". I personally would make a urethral move on a sub of mine, if he were committed, since I enjoy the idea of his toys being rather useless except for fun, but I would not remove them from one of my lovers. I look only for those with no other alternative and who are totally committed when I do an extreme procedure. My standards are less when I do piercings and some genital modifications that are reversible.

BME: Where do you get your medical supplies?

JIM: I have several sources of supplies. I have a vet who gets sutures from a local hospital after they have been part of a "heart pack" that has been opened. The packs contain many more than are ever used, and they unopened ones are disposed of by the staff. I get other items from military surplus, state surplus, hospital auctions, antique shops (I collect old instruments), vet supply stores, Home Depot pet department, farm and home stores, and the local pharmacy.

For piercings, it is a matter of telling the person what to bring and getting my supplies ready and sterilized. For other procedures, I will always go back and spend some time at the local medical school, read and re-read texts and diagrams, go through my collection of written procedures, and then take a small reference notebook along with me. I do not do these daily, so I never assume that I will not forget something. As you have seen from my video, I work slowly. I make sure that I seal off each of the blood supplies as I go. I take more time, but I cause less blood loss, I think, and I review each step as I do it especially in the more serious procedures where major blood supplies are being worked with.

BME: Have you ever had anything go wrong? Do traditional doctors have to get involved sometimes?

JIM: I do try to make sure that the person knows his medical doctor at home before I do a procedure. It is possible that he might have to go there for stitch removal or if there is a complication. I usually ask that the person be on antibiotics for the more major procedures ahead of time, and that they not be on blood thinners or such medications. (Even aspirin).

In the case of something going wrong, I leave it up to the person to determine if they desire to go to the hospital or doctor office. I will tell them what the risks are, and allow them to make that decision. Should anyone become unconscious or stop breathing, I would immediately call assistance, but that has never occurred. The most serious thing that has occurred during the major procedures has been pulling of the stitches due to some swelling but mostly because the person moved around too much too fast. The other was some bleeding from the urethral opening after it has been reattached several days later. I will calm them, have them put on pressure bandage, lie down, and it nearly always stops. They have pulled a bit of a stitch, and it will heal. I NEVER tell them not to go to get other medical treatment if they feel it is best.

BME: What do you think of the recent arrests and convictions of Ed Bodkin and Dr. Brown?

JIM: Brown and Bodkin were too cavalier about what they did. Bodkin and I were in conversation, and he had asked that I allow him to witness a penis removal. He sent me his videos, and I was appalled by the lack of professionalism in his work. Shoving a paper towel in a seeping scrotum is not what I would consider good practice. His alcoholism allowed his fantasy to come far too close to the foreground, and I think he was likely on a "power trip" in that he kept trophies of what he had done. I think anyone who keeps trophies is more into power than into assisting people who can not get something done elsewhere.

Brown also seemed a bit too fast and in it for the money. There is nothing wrong with a doctor getting money, but I think his procedures got sloppy, and he did not seem to work with the "patient" in mind. The procedures of his I have seen were enormously bloody and not in a very good environment for that level of surgery where he was making a vagina out of a penis. He also let people go back on their own, while I prefer that they stay with someone in the event of a serious procedure or have someone with them even for the more minor penis and scrotum alterations.

BME: How has this community changed recently?

JIM: Things have changed over the last few years for many reasons including the internet. As a part of the "old leather community", most of the referrals were made by phone or personal contact, mouth-to-mouth. Now most come in from e-mails and internet contacts. The leather community has changed greatly these days because of AIDS and the dying off of the old guard and their not having adequately trained a new generation. Now any sadist thinks he is a top. Boys are offended if their leather has cum, piss or sweat on it. And body modifications are in the mainstream with more extreme being openly discussed and shown (and soon to be in GQ). There are still a few bars where leather daddies sit quietly and drink their beer while their boys flirt with the patrons showing off their alterations, then dutifully going to their daddy when they break up and leave. There are still a few bars where a boy can be strapped to a cross naked and shown off, but with the increased awareness of the dangers of open sex in baths and bars, it has driven that community into a kind of exile that BME has opened a door on again. I still find a need for a serious community, and I think it is forming around BME. It is no longer the old leather community that met in the backroom or basement of the bar, but now it is on the "puter". What needs to happen next, is for this community to become more personal with each other through chat rooms, e-mails, personal contacts, meetings, and conventions like the one you sponsored last year. In this way, there can be a free and open forum for this discussion. The fantasy players can pretend to know what it would be like, and the serious searchers can talk to those who have had it done regardless of level, and find out if that is truly what they want for themselves.

Pictures in this interview are not from procedres performed by Jim. Please do not ask me how to get in touch with him as I will not do so under any circumstances.
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