Oh, how far we have come…

…when the Lizardman is cracking jokes in teen magazines.

I wonder if they paid him, or just stole the picture like many magazines do. Anyway, Julie was given this by a girl she babysits because “you have tattoos so you might know him.” Ah, good, we’re now a misunderstood size-underestimated pseudo-ethnic group. Heh.

69 thoughts on “Oh, how far we have come…

  1. So they don’t like it when the model has tattoos and piercings, yet they love Pink? Pink has a bunch of tattoos and piercings. Damn fools.

  2. So they don’t like it when the model has tattoos and piercings, yet they love Pink? Pink has a bunch of tattoos and piercings. Damn fools.

  3. So they don’t like it when the model has tattoos and piercings, yet they love Pink? Pink has a bunch of tattoos and piercings. Damn fools.

  4. I’m pretty sure the mom is talking about Pink in her statement.

    Anyway, there’s something incredibly clunky about this sentence: “I supposed she was stupid on the days when she got the tattoos and piercings.”

    So, stupid is now a state of being which comes and goes, like being hungry or irritated? At least try to sound intelligent when criticizing another’s choices…

  5. I’m pretty sure the mom is talking about Pink in her statement.

    Anyway, there’s something incredibly clunky about this sentence: “I supposed she was stupid on the days when she got the tattoos and piercings.”

    So, stupid is now a state of being which comes and goes, like being hungry or irritated? At least try to sound intelligent when criticizing another’s choices…

  6. I’m pretty sure the mom is talking about Pink in her statement.

    Anyway, there’s something incredibly clunky about this sentence: “I supposed she was stupid on the days when she got the tattoos and piercings.”

    So, stupid is now a state of being which comes and goes, like being hungry or irritated? At least try to sound intelligent when criticizing another’s choices…

  7. “you have tattoos so you might know him.â€?

    sort of sounds like some americans, when you’re visiting from canada… “you’re from canada?! oh, you must know [insert name here]!”

  8. “you have tattoos so you might know him.â€?

    sort of sounds like some americans, when you’re visiting from canada… “you’re from canada?! oh, you must know [insert name here]!”

  9. “you have tattoos so you might know him.â€?

    sort of sounds like some americans, when you’re visiting from canada… “you’re from canada?! oh, you must know [insert name here]!”

  10. Oh ok, got ya. I obviously didn’t read it properly. Yep, that sentence by the mum makes no sense at all.

  11. Oh ok, got ya. I obviously didn’t read it properly. Yep, that sentence by the mum makes no sense at all.

  12. Oh ok, got ya. I obviously didn’t read it properly. Yep, that sentence by the mum makes no sense at all.

  13. i think its just plain insulting to anyone who has tattoos or piercings.

    Not to mention incredibly fucking irritating to see how ridiculously closed-minded some people still are. GROW UP and worst yet is she is obviously sensoring what her own daughter is reading and therefore is probably going tobe one of those moms who will never let her get pierced or will force her to get it done by the gun because its cheaper or something. Fucking ignorant bitch is what she is!

  14. i think its just plain insulting to anyone who has tattoos or piercings.

    Not to mention incredibly fucking irritating to see how ridiculously closed-minded some people still are. GROW UP and worst yet is she is obviously sensoring what her own daughter is reading and therefore is probably going tobe one of those moms who will never let her get pierced or will force her to get it done by the gun because its cheaper or something. Fucking ignorant bitch is what she is!

  15. i think its just plain insulting to anyone who has tattoos or piercings.

    Not to mention incredibly fucking irritating to see how ridiculously closed-minded some people still are. GROW UP and worst yet is she is obviously sensoring what her own daughter is reading and therefore is probably going tobe one of those moms who will never let her get pierced or will force her to get it done by the gun because its cheaper or something. Fucking ignorant bitch is what she is!

  16. can you even imagine being the girl who hears her mother scream about cancelling her subscription because some tattooed singer was on the cover?

    i hope she falls in a well.

  17. can you even imagine being the girl who hears her mother scream about cancelling her subscription because some tattooed singer was on the cover?

    i hope she falls in a well.

  18. can you even imagine being the girl who hears her mother scream about cancelling her subscription because some tattooed singer was on the cover?

    i hope she falls in a well.

  19. Nope – they didn’t pay me. The photo is one from the red carpet at Godsmack’s grammy party a couple years ago cropped to just a headshot.

    Still, I think they should give me a cover

  20. Nope – they didn’t pay me. The photo is one from the red carpet at Godsmack’s grammy party a couple years ago cropped to just a headshot.

    Still, I think they should give me a cover

  21. Nope – they didn’t pay me. The photo is one from the red carpet at Godsmack’s grammy party a couple years ago cropped to just a headshot.

    Still, I think they should give me a cover

  22. I read that in my magazine last night, and I was ashamed. Talk about close-minded and living in the past! And you’re right, the Lizardman probably wasn’t paid…

  23. I read that in my magazine last night, and I was ashamed. Talk about close-minded and living in the past! And you’re right, the Lizardman probably wasn’t paid…

  24. I read that in my magazine last night, and I was ashamed. Talk about close-minded and living in the past! And you’re right, the Lizardman probably wasn’t paid…

  25. You’re from England, huh? I know a few guys there! You close to London? Where’s Newcastle? 350 miles? You ever go to London?

    *dies*

    *n

  26. You’re from England, huh? I know a few guys there! You close to London? Where’s Newcastle? 350 miles? You ever go to London?

    *dies*

    *n

  27. You’re from England, huh? I know a few guys there! You close to London? Where’s Newcastle? 350 miles? You ever go to London?

    *dies*

    *n

  28. um…Seventeen is making fun of the dumb mom on their letters page. And maybe turning on a few of its readers!!!

  29. um…Seventeen is making fun of the dumb mom on their letters page. And maybe turning on a few of its readers!!!

  30. um…Seventeen is making fun of the dumb mom on their letters page. And maybe turning on a few of its readers!!!

  31. So we are stupid when we get tattooed or pierced? Oh wow!! I’m stupid and I love it 🙂 !!!

    Seriously, just because a person has tattoos or piercings, it makes them a bad role model? Then I will never go out of my house again because young people might see my evil nose ring.

  32. So we are stupid when we get tattooed or pierced? Oh wow!! I’m stupid and I love it 🙂 !!!

    Seriously, just because a person has tattoos or piercings, it makes them a bad role model? Then I will never go out of my house again because young people might see my evil nose ring.

  33. So we are stupid when we get tattooed or pierced? Oh wow!! I’m stupid and I love it 🙂 !!!

    Seriously, just because a person has tattoos or piercings, it makes them a bad role model? Then I will never go out of my house again because young people might see my evil nose ring.

  34. “misunderstood size-underestimated pseudo-ethnic group”… makes me think of the phyles from “The Diamond Age”.

  35. “misunderstood size-underestimated pseudo-ethnic group”… makes me think of the phyles from “The Diamond Age”.

  36. “misunderstood size-underestimated pseudo-ethnic group”… makes me think of the phyles from “The Diamond Age”.

  37. i do ceramic and hardwood floors for a living. my friend and i worked for a certain builder for months straight, so we got to know his secretary (she wrote our checks, heh). well, now we find ourselves in this woman’s home doing work for her. her daughter was telling me the other day that her mom was apprehensive about the idea of her daughter getting a monroe piercing, but it was right at the same time she met us. we’re two pierced, dreadlocked, tattooed guys who come to work scruffy every day. her daughter told me that meeting us and knowing us as good people swayed her opinion on her daughter’s piercing. i was glad to hear our personalities made a difference in first appearances, and i just thought it was somewhat relevant here.

  38. i do ceramic and hardwood floors for a living. my friend and i worked for a certain builder for months straight, so we got to know his secretary (she wrote our checks, heh). well, now we find ourselves in this woman’s home doing work for her. her daughter was telling me the other day that her mom was apprehensive about the idea of her daughter getting a monroe piercing, but it was right at the same time she met us. we’re two pierced, dreadlocked, tattooed guys who come to work scruffy every day. her daughter told me that meeting us and knowing us as good people swayed her opinion on her daughter’s piercing. i was glad to hear our personalities made a difference in first appearances, and i just thought it was somewhat relevant here.

  39. i do ceramic and hardwood floors for a living. my friend and i worked for a certain builder for months straight, so we got to know his secretary (she wrote our checks, heh). well, now we find ourselves in this woman’s home doing work for her. her daughter was telling me the other day that her mom was apprehensive about the idea of her daughter getting a monroe piercing, but it was right at the same time she met us. we’re two pierced, dreadlocked, tattooed guys who come to work scruffy every day. her daughter told me that meeting us and knowing us as good people swayed her opinion on her daughter’s piercing. i was glad to hear our personalities made a difference in first appearances, and i just thought it was somewhat relevant here.

  40. I think it’s really unhelpful to be super nasty about that mother’s comment. There is so much more wrong with the world than a few anti-mod comments made by misguided over-protective mothers who probably really love their kids.

    It makes me sad to see supposedly “open-minded” people saying things like:

    “Fucking ignorant bitch is what she is!”

    and

    “i hope she falls in a well.”

    Just because her views about piercing/tattoos differ from yours. Those comments above are a lot more disturbing to me than anything that mother said.

    For all you know, the mother could be really frustrated that her 13 year old daughter constantly asks for mods that she is too young to legally get. Maybe she doesn’t want her daughter to become another under-age teenager with an infected navel piercing and a bad tribal butterfly tattoo.

    And as for being “one of those moms who will never let her get pierced” – so what? When her daughter is old enough, she will obviously be able decide whether she wants to get pierced/tattooed/whatever with or without her mother’s approval.

    In the meantime, why not try to make the world a nicer place?

  41. I think it’s really unhelpful to be super nasty about that mother’s comment. There is so much more wrong with the world than a few anti-mod comments made by misguided over-protective mothers who probably really love their kids.

    It makes me sad to see supposedly “open-minded” people saying things like:

    “Fucking ignorant bitch is what she is!”

    and

    “i hope she falls in a well.”

    Just because her views about piercing/tattoos differ from yours. Those comments above are a lot more disturbing to me than anything that mother said.

    For all you know, the mother could be really frustrated that her 13 year old daughter constantly asks for mods that she is too young to legally get. Maybe she doesn’t want her daughter to become another under-age teenager with an infected navel piercing and a bad tribal butterfly tattoo.

    And as for being “one of those moms who will never let her get pierced” – so what? When her daughter is old enough, she will obviously be able decide whether she wants to get pierced/tattooed/whatever with or without her mother’s approval.

    In the meantime, why not try to make the world a nicer place?

  42. I think it’s really unhelpful to be super nasty about that mother’s comment. There is so much more wrong with the world than a few anti-mod comments made by misguided over-protective mothers who probably really love their kids.

    It makes me sad to see supposedly “open-minded” people saying things like:

    “Fucking ignorant bitch is what she is!”

    and

    “i hope she falls in a well.”

    Just because her views about piercing/tattoos differ from yours. Those comments above are a lot more disturbing to me than anything that mother said.

    For all you know, the mother could be really frustrated that her 13 year old daughter constantly asks for mods that she is too young to legally get. Maybe she doesn’t want her daughter to become another under-age teenager with an infected navel piercing and a bad tribal butterfly tattoo.

    And as for being “one of those moms who will never let her get pierced” – so what? When her daughter is old enough, she will obviously be able decide whether she wants to get pierced/tattooed/whatever with or without her mother’s approval.

    In the meantime, why not try to make the world a nicer place?

  43. Aus, the thing is, she was willing to cancel her subscription to a mag for them having a modded person on the cover. That doesn’t sound like frustrated to me, that sounds like hard-core bigotted. And people that extreme in their dislike of other people having mods tend to attempt to indoctinate their kids that mods and modded people are evil. That’s probably why the people above were so angry and used the language and statements they did.

    It wasn’t just what the mother said, it was her stated action that was more disturbing. She doesn’t even want to look at a modded individual and doesn’t think that someone with tattoos or piercings can be a good role model. Not someone I’d say is just looking out for their daughter.

    As well, the problem with a complete ban on your child being modded in any form while they live under your roof is that many will leave the day they turn eighteen even if they aren’t ready to–messing up their life somewhat. And then the fact that 18 is the prime age for rebellion means that they’ll likely rebel by getting mods they don’t really want from people they shouldn’t be getting them from.

    Think it from all sides–I can see where you’re coming from, and yeah, not everyone with parents like that turn out like I described but it’s still a possibility, and not one should happen–and wouldn’t if people would lighten up. So yeah, we don’t know her, so can’t completely judge her, but a bit of extrapolation from her comments reveals what type of person she most likely is. And it’s the type the world would be better off without. Still, I learned my lesson on wishing people death a long time ago. So I echo the, “Fucking ignorant bitch is what she is!â€? but not the, “[I] hope she falls in a well.â€?

    –C Allan.

  44. Aus, the thing is, she was willing to cancel her subscription to a mag for them having a modded person on the cover. That doesn’t sound like frustrated to me, that sounds like hard-core bigotted. And people that extreme in their dislike of other people having mods tend to attempt to indoctinate their kids that mods and modded people are evil. That’s probably why the people above were so angry and used the language and statements they did.

    It wasn’t just what the mother said, it was her stated action that was more disturbing. She doesn’t even want to look at a modded individual and doesn’t think that someone with tattoos or piercings can be a good role model. Not someone I’d say is just looking out for their daughter.

    As well, the problem with a complete ban on your child being modded in any form while they live under your roof is that many will leave the day they turn eighteen even if they aren’t ready to–messing up their life somewhat. And then the fact that 18 is the prime age for rebellion means that they’ll likely rebel by getting mods they don’t really want from people they shouldn’t be getting them from.

    Think it from all sides–I can see where you’re coming from, and yeah, not everyone with parents like that turn out like I described but it’s still a possibility, and not one should happen–and wouldn’t if people would lighten up. So yeah, we don’t know her, so can’t completely judge her, but a bit of extrapolation from her comments reveals what type of person she most likely is. And it’s the type the world would be better off without. Still, I learned my lesson on wishing people death a long time ago. So I echo the, “Fucking ignorant bitch is what she is!â€? but not the, “[I] hope she falls in a well.â€?

    –C Allan.

  45. Aus, the thing is, she was willing to cancel her subscription to a mag for them having a modded person on the cover. That doesn’t sound like frustrated to me, that sounds like hard-core bigotted. And people that extreme in their dislike of other people having mods tend to attempt to indoctinate their kids that mods and modded people are evil. That’s probably why the people above were so angry and used the language and statements they did.

    It wasn’t just what the mother said, it was her stated action that was more disturbing. She doesn’t even want to look at a modded individual and doesn’t think that someone with tattoos or piercings can be a good role model. Not someone I’d say is just looking out for their daughter.

    As well, the problem with a complete ban on your child being modded in any form while they live under your roof is that many will leave the day they turn eighteen even if they aren’t ready to–messing up their life somewhat. And then the fact that 18 is the prime age for rebellion means that they’ll likely rebel by getting mods they don’t really want from people they shouldn’t be getting them from.

    Think it from all sides–I can see where you’re coming from, and yeah, not everyone with parents like that turn out like I described but it’s still a possibility, and not one should happen–and wouldn’t if people would lighten up. So yeah, we don’t know her, so can’t completely judge her, but a bit of extrapolation from her comments reveals what type of person she most likely is. And it’s the type the world would be better off without. Still, I learned my lesson on wishing people death a long time ago. So I echo the, “Fucking ignorant bitch is what she is!â€? but not the, “[I] hope she falls in a well.â€?

    –C Allan.

  46. “There is so much more wrong with the world than a few anti-mod comments made by misguided over-protective mothers who probably really love their kids.”

    What does she have to protect her daughter from? Mods? Because those sure as hell aren’t as dangerous as riding in a car, playing sports, and all the everyday things she probably let’s her daughter do.

    “For all you know, the mother could be really frustrated that her 13 year old daughter constantly asks for mods that she is too young to legally get.”

    Yet she’s bitching out pink, who is most definitely over the legal age for piercings and tattoos, for adorning her body the way she wants.

    “When her daughter is old enough, she will obviously be able decide whether she wants to get pierced/tattooed/whatever with or without her mother’s approval.”

    If you take a look at the comments on this page;

    http://modblog.bmezine.com/2006/02/21/beautiful-suspensions/

    you’ll see how much supportive parents are appreciated and make a difference.

    You have to fight shitheads like these to make the world a better place. What do you want us to do, let them walk all over us?

  47. “There is so much more wrong with the world than a few anti-mod comments made by misguided over-protective mothers who probably really love their kids.”

    What does she have to protect her daughter from? Mods? Because those sure as hell aren’t as dangerous as riding in a car, playing sports, and all the everyday things she probably let’s her daughter do.

    “For all you know, the mother could be really frustrated that her 13 year old daughter constantly asks for mods that she is too young to legally get.”

    Yet she’s bitching out pink, who is most definitely over the legal age for piercings and tattoos, for adorning her body the way she wants.

    “When her daughter is old enough, she will obviously be able decide whether she wants to get pierced/tattooed/whatever with or without her mother’s approval.”

    If you take a look at the comments on this page;

    http://modblog.bmezine.com/2006/02/21/beautiful-suspensions/

    you’ll see how much supportive parents are appreciated and make a difference.

    You have to fight shitheads like these to make the world a better place. What do you want us to do, let them walk all over us?

  48. “There is so much more wrong with the world than a few anti-mod comments made by misguided over-protective mothers who probably really love their kids.”

    What does she have to protect her daughter from? Mods? Because those sure as hell aren’t as dangerous as riding in a car, playing sports, and all the everyday things she probably let’s her daughter do.

    “For all you know, the mother could be really frustrated that her 13 year old daughter constantly asks for mods that she is too young to legally get.”

    Yet she’s bitching out pink, who is most definitely over the legal age for piercings and tattoos, for adorning her body the way she wants.

    “When her daughter is old enough, she will obviously be able decide whether she wants to get pierced/tattooed/whatever with or without her mother’s approval.”

    If you take a look at the comments on this page;

    http://modblog.bmezine.com/2006/02/21/beautiful-suspensions/

    you’ll see how much supportive parents are appreciated and make a difference.

    You have to fight shitheads like these to make the world a better place. What do you want us to do, let them walk all over us?

  49. Am I the only one that thought that was hilarious…? Of course it sucks that there are closeminded people who look down on us because of the things we do to our own bodies but it seemed to me that the magazine was just making fun of the woman. The little “Angry Mom Letter!” caption, and having someone as extensively modified as the Lizardman challenge her directly was pretty funny.

  50. Am I the only one that thought that was hilarious…? Of course it sucks that there are closeminded people who look down on us because of the things we do to our own bodies but it seemed to me that the magazine was just making fun of the woman. The little “Angry Mom Letter!” caption, and having someone as extensively modified as the Lizardman challenge her directly was pretty funny.

  51. Am I the only one that thought that was hilarious…? Of course it sucks that there are closeminded people who look down on us because of the things we do to our own bodies but it seemed to me that the magazine was just making fun of the woman. The little “Angry Mom Letter!” caption, and having someone as extensively modified as the Lizardman challenge her directly was pretty funny.

  52. I don’t see how arguing on this blog is really gona solve anything here… just seems like an arguement I’ve heard a 100 times.

    If you really feel the need write into the magazine if you want “to fight shitheads like these”

  53. I don’t see how arguing on this blog is really gona solve anything here… just seems like an arguement I’ve heard a 100 times.

    If you really feel the need write into the magazine if you want “to fight shitheads like these”

  54. I don’t see how arguing on this blog is really gona solve anything here… just seems like an arguement I’ve heard a 100 times.

    If you really feel the need write into the magazine if you want “to fight shitheads like these”

  55. C Allan:
    I agree with you. I can see it from the other side, I just think it’s completely unhelpful to write so angryly/violently in the comments section of this blog. It doesn’t achieve anything (beyond venting), and I think it promotes a negative attitude in general.

    Kerri:
    As others have said, I think it’s pointless to argue about this in a blog.
    I do understand that supportive parents make a difference. I did say the mother’s over-protectiveness was misguided. I don’t agree with the mother’s sentiments, I was just saying that I don’t think it helps to be so nasty/violent.

    “You have to fight shitheads like these to make the world a better place. What do you want us to do, let them walk all over us? ”

    Nobody want’s to be “walked over” but personally I don’t think a few nasty comments in a blog make a positive difference. Is the world really made a better place by bringing more violence and hate into it? What about doing something more constructive?

  56. C Allan:
    I agree with you. I can see it from the other side, I just think it’s completely unhelpful to write so angryly/violently in the comments section of this blog. It doesn’t achieve anything (beyond venting), and I think it promotes a negative attitude in general.

    Kerri:
    As others have said, I think it’s pointless to argue about this in a blog.
    I do understand that supportive parents make a difference. I did say the mother’s over-protectiveness was misguided. I don’t agree with the mother’s sentiments, I was just saying that I don’t think it helps to be so nasty/violent.

    “You have to fight shitheads like these to make the world a better place. What do you want us to do, let them walk all over us? ”

    Nobody want’s to be “walked over” but personally I don’t think a few nasty comments in a blog make a positive difference. Is the world really made a better place by bringing more violence and hate into it? What about doing something more constructive?

  57. C Allan:
    I agree with you. I can see it from the other side, I just think it’s completely unhelpful to write so angryly/violently in the comments section of this blog. It doesn’t achieve anything (beyond venting), and I think it promotes a negative attitude in general.

    Kerri:
    As others have said, I think it’s pointless to argue about this in a blog.
    I do understand that supportive parents make a difference. I did say the mother’s over-protectiveness was misguided. I don’t agree with the mother’s sentiments, I was just saying that I don’t think it helps to be so nasty/violent.

    “You have to fight shitheads like these to make the world a better place. What do you want us to do, let them walk all over us? ”

    Nobody want’s to be “walked over” but personally I don’t think a few nasty comments in a blog make a positive difference. Is the world really made a better place by bringing more violence and hate into it? What about doing something more constructive?

  58. it’s hilarious that that woman was angry about piercings and tattoos on a magazine that sends the message to girls to starve themselves. i’m sorry, that seems like body modification to me, and an unhealthy kind at that.

  59. it’s hilarious that that woman was angry about piercings and tattoos on a magazine that sends the message to girls to starve themselves. i’m sorry, that seems like body modification to me, and an unhealthy kind at that.

  60. it’s hilarious that that woman was angry about piercings and tattoos on a magazine that sends the message to girls to starve themselves. i’m sorry, that seems like body modification to me, and an unhealthy kind at that.

  61. It’s like asking a black guy “hey, you’re black, you must know Morgan Freeman!”

  62. It’s like asking a black guy “hey, you’re black, you must know Morgan Freeman!”

  63. It’s like asking a black guy “hey, you’re black, you must know Morgan Freeman!”

  64. omg thats kool that pink lived down the road from Erik but i mean the thing bout sayin that she must of been stupid for geti nthe tattoos and pearcing its just dum

    I love the lizard man hes a legend and a GREAT!!!! role model

  65. omg thats kool that pink lived down the road from Erik but i mean the thing bout sayin that she must of been stupid for geti nthe tattoos and pearcing its just dum

    I love the lizard man hes a legend and a GREAT!!!! role model

  66. omg thats kool that pink lived down the road from Erik but i mean the thing bout sayin that she must of been stupid for geti nthe tattoos and pearcing its just dum

    I love the lizard man hes a legend and a GREAT!!!! role model

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