My friend Joseph who tattoos at Visual Orgasm in Singapore got me wondering… Is this like the equivalent of someone getting an Attila the Hun tattoo just because you know he’s a bad ass or something? I really wonder what the meaning is in the context of Singapore…
After all, people get plenty of evil characters from fiction tattooed on them because it appeals to them on some level, even though they’re not endorsing the evil actions or anything… Is this different somehow because it strikes a more real and current nerve? I don’t know. That said, I can say with 100% certainty that I would never personally get a Hitler tattoo!!!!
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evil characters didn’t murder millions of innocent victims. i’m for freedom of speech, but i’m also for freedom of beating the shit out of this guy if i see him. i didn’t tattoo the guy that killed 30 members of HIS family on MY arm.
evil characters didn’t murder millions of innocent victims. i’m for freedom of speech, but i’m also for freedom of beating the shit out of this guy if i see him. i didn’t tattoo the guy that killed 30 members of HIS family on MY arm.
That really, really isn’t cool. Not in any way, shape or form.
That really, really isn’t cool. Not in any way, shape or form.
So basically it’s different because you feel a personal connection to this evil? Evil characters represent evil, and like I said, plenty of people in the West get tattoos of non-Western historical figures that one could certainly pin attrocities on as well.
(My feeling is don’t get either, personally).
So basically it’s different because you feel a personal connection to this evil? Evil characters represent evil, and like I said, plenty of people in the West get tattoos of non-Western historical figures that one could certainly pin attrocities on as well.
(My feeling is don’t get either, personally).
(For example, there are probably a dozen photos of Stalin tattoos on IAM members, as well as plenty of pirates, serial killers, etc.)
(For example, there are probably a dozen photos of Stalin tattoos on IAM members, as well as plenty of pirates, serial killers, etc.)
eh, to each and his own. it’ll definately be a conversation starter
eh, to each and his own. it’ll definately be a conversation starter
By the way to be clear — I’m not in ANY way encouraging getting Hitler tattoos. Reclaiming the swastika? Great. Reclaiming Hitler? Probably not the greatest idea.
By the way to be clear — I’m not in ANY way encouraging getting Hitler tattoos. Reclaiming the swastika? Great. Reclaiming Hitler? Probably not the greatest idea.
It’s hard to comment without feeling like I’m passing judgement, but in the end, I guess I am.
I could go on for pages about my sentiments, but I’ll try to sum it up quickly. I see a strong difference between real evil like Hitler and fictional evil like… oh I dunno, a character from a comic book.
Often fictional evil characters can also represent a “dark hat” vision of life which has very little to do with murder and more to do with rebellion.
In the end though, it’s their body and they can do what they like. I’m not the one who will have to live with their decision. Just don’t expect me to bite my tongue if my opinion is asked.
Ummm… well, whatever my personal feelings about Hitler and the atrocities committed by him and his followers, that IS a really well-done portrait. I don’t understand why anyone would want to associate with with such hatred and evil and have it permanently applied to their body, and goes for a lot of the extremely violent/negative tattoos I see (on BME and in r/l). It can’t be healthy for the psyche to look at that every day!
It’s hard to comment without feeling like I’m passing judgement, but in the end, I guess I am.
I could go on for pages about my sentiments, but I’ll try to sum it up quickly. I see a strong difference between real evil like Hitler and fictional evil like… oh I dunno, a character from a comic book.
Often fictional evil characters can also represent a “dark hat” vision of life which has very little to do with murder and more to do with rebellion.
In the end though, it’s their body and they can do what they like. I’m not the one who will have to live with their decision. Just don’t expect me to bite my tongue if my opinion is asked.
Ummm… well, whatever my personal feelings about Hitler and the atrocities committed by him and his followers, that IS a really well-done portrait. I don’t understand why anyone would want to associate with with such hatred and evil and have it permanently applied to their body, and goes for a lot of the extremely violent/negative tattoos I see (on BME and in r/l). It can’t be healthy for the psyche to look at that every day!
that’s not good, not funny, none of these…
as mentioned, an evil character from a movie is a complete different thing to a real madman who managed to kill millions of innocent people.
maybe his family wasn’t that involved in ww2, but i guess everybody who knows that his ancestors had to give their life involuntarily to serve some psychopath’s hunger for power should know better.
i was just wondering…here in austria it is forbidden by the law to wear nazi symbols on you, own nazi propaganda (except in a scientific context where it gets treated very critically) etcetera.
i am pretty sure tattoo artists who would do work like that would be sued.
i think they try to convince guys who have swastika tattoos to get them covered up or removed after they’ve had a punishment, but what would they do with this guy? lock him up?
hmm…
that’s not good, not funny, none of these…
as mentioned, an evil character from a movie is a complete different thing to a real madman who managed to kill millions of innocent people.
maybe his family wasn’t that involved in ww2, but i guess everybody who knows that his ancestors had to give their life involuntarily to serve some psychopath’s hunger for power should know better.
i was just wondering…here in austria it is forbidden by the law to wear nazi symbols on you, own nazi propaganda (except in a scientific context where it gets treated very critically) etcetera.
i am pretty sure tattoo artists who would do work like that would be sued.
i think they try to convince guys who have swastika tattoos to get them covered up or removed after they’ve had a punishment, but what would they do with this guy? lock him up?
hmm…
smurf – Stalin is not fictional 😉
annanann – I agree that it’s not a tasteful tattoo, but don’t you feel that it’s wrong to tell people they actually can’t do this sort of thing?
smurf – Stalin is not fictional 😉
annanann – I agree that it’s not a tasteful tattoo, but don’t you feel that it’s wrong to tell people they actually can’t do this sort of thing?
For the record
What I’m asking is if we may have equally short sight when we’re discussing attrocities that are outside of our cultural experience. You know? Like we let it slip if it’s a massacre that didn’t touch our lives.
For the record
What I’m asking is if we may have equally short sight when we’re discussing attrocities that are outside of our cultural experience. You know? Like we let it slip if it’s a massacre that didn’t touch our lives.
Shannon: I have a minor in History, I am fully aware of who Joseph Stalin was and the atrocities he committed. I was actually differentiating between getting a tattoo of Hitler versus something like a pirate.
Yes, I am aware that pirates existed and caused great harm, but modern perceptions of them are based more off of fictional works of literature and cartoonish movie characters.
Shannon: I have a minor in History, I am fully aware of who Joseph Stalin was and the atrocities he committed. I was actually differentiating between getting a tattoo of Hitler versus something like a pirate.
Yes, I am aware that pirates existed and caused great harm, but modern perceptions of them are based more off of fictional works of literature and cartoonish movie characters.
who knows it might be part of a history sleeve.
to each their own.
just cause this person has a hitler tatt doesn’t mean he should be treated like him.
who knows it might be part of a history sleeve.
to each their own.
just cause this person has a hitler tatt doesn’t mean he should be treated like him.
“Reclaiming Hitler? Probably not the greastest idea.”
That made me laugh so much! Maybe this person just doesn’t like Jewish people? Although I can’t imagine any self-respecting tattoo artist actually tattooing anything that is racism based. As much as I disagree with all the killing and hatred that Hitler performed and inspired – he managed to unite most of Germany and nearly conquered Europe. Not everyone could manage that. So maybe it is a tattoo to comemorate greatness? Or perhaps mankinds ever failing attempts to be the best? I suppose you could argue it’s alot of things, only the tattooee knows for sure. And it’s a really good tattoo.
Once again for the record however – racsim = bad. Superior races = a big no-no. Speaking of Hitler however, has anyone seen Downfall? Bruno Ganz – absolutely amazing, man is a genius.
xXx
“Reclaiming Hitler? Probably not the greastest idea.”
That made me laugh so much! Maybe this person just doesn’t like Jewish people? Although I can’t imagine any self-respecting tattoo artist actually tattooing anything that is racism based. As much as I disagree with all the killing and hatred that Hitler performed and inspired – he managed to unite most of Germany and nearly conquered Europe. Not everyone could manage that. So maybe it is a tattoo to comemorate greatness? Or perhaps mankinds ever failing attempts to be the best? I suppose you could argue it’s alot of things, only the tattooee knows for sure. And it’s a really good tattoo.
Once again for the record however – racsim = bad. Superior races = a big no-no. Speaking of Hitler however, has anyone seen Downfall? Bruno Ganz – absolutely amazing, man is a genius.
xXx
spirited-away:Fully agreed. Downfall is an astounding film. The man who played Goebbles gave me nightmares.
spirited-away:Fully agreed. Downfall is an astounding film. The man who played Goebbles gave me nightmares.
Oh and I do agree with Lori (and I’m sure Shannon has said this a fair few times in his various
rants and ravesinteresting articles!) – looking at something that is inspires hatred or is depressing or anything negative is bound to bring about a change in the persons attitude.However just because I could never see myself getting a Hitler tattoo – I wouldn’t go out of my way to offend this person in anyway. It’s his, or her maybe?, body and their choice really – as long as they aren’t harming anyone then they can have all the Hitler tattoos they like in my opnion.
For example, I think ‘pornographic’ tattoos are a bit vulgar, so I wouldn’t get one! When I see them however, instead of saying how I would never get one, I look at how good a tattoo it is and how anatomically correct etc.
xXx
Oh and I do agree with Lori (and I’m sure Shannon has said this a fair few times in his various
rants and ravesinteresting articles!) – looking at something that is inspires hatred or is depressing or anything negative is bound to bring about a change in the persons attitude.However just because I could never see myself getting a Hitler tattoo – I wouldn’t go out of my way to offend this person in anyway. It’s his, or her maybe?, body and their choice really – as long as they aren’t harming anyone then they can have all the Hitler tattoos they like in my opnion.
For example, I think ‘pornographic’ tattoos are a bit vulgar, so I wouldn’t get one! When I see them however, instead of saying how I would never get one, I look at how good a tattoo it is and how anatomically correct etc.
xXx
smurf – Oh, I know you know, I was just kidding (but wanted to get back on course)!
smurf – Oh, I know you know, I was just kidding (but wanted to get back on course)!
Muito bom , esse artista ta de parabéns.
Abraço……………………………………………..
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Muito bom , esse artista ta de parabéns.
Abraço……………………………………………..
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I don’t think anyone can judge this person by the tattoo because it is completely out of context here. It very well may be part of a bigger project as has been suggested. Or symbolic of something other than racism. I do feel it could be in poor taste, but without speaking with the person on the subject, I really don’t feel I can judge. No one would be making such a fuss over a serial killer tattoo, many of which I imagine have commited atrocities similar to Hitler although on a much smaller scale (think deathcamp style torture). I also think many people in this community would jump to defend swastika tattoos as representative of something other than hate, really as the complete opposite, although your average Joe will connect it with Nazism. Should people stop getting swastikas because they can be potentially offensive?
I guess I don’t really have anything to say that hasn’t been said by the rest of you! 🙂
I don’t think anyone can judge this person by the tattoo because it is completely out of context here. It very well may be part of a bigger project as has been suggested. Or symbolic of something other than racism. I do feel it could be in poor taste, but without speaking with the person on the subject, I really don’t feel I can judge. No one would be making such a fuss over a serial killer tattoo, many of which I imagine have commited atrocities similar to Hitler although on a much smaller scale (think deathcamp style torture). I also think many people in this community would jump to defend swastika tattoos as representative of something other than hate, really as the complete opposite, although your average Joe will connect it with Nazism. Should people stop getting swastikas because they can be potentially offensive?
I guess I don’t really have anything to say that hasn’t been said by the rest of you! 🙂
It’s not a tattoo I would get, but whatever floats his boat. 🙂
And I love the name Visual Orgasm!
It’s not a tattoo I would get, but whatever floats his boat. 🙂
And I love the name Visual Orgasm!
this doesnt strike me as a pro-nazism tattoo because nazis generally dont have the intelligence or breadth of mind to come up with something so original and unique.
this doesnt strike me as a pro-nazism tattoo because nazis generally dont have the intelligence or breadth of mind to come up with something so original and unique.
even though hitler is pretty much the worst dude ever, the tattoo seems like it was done well…
even though hitler is pretty much the worst dude ever, the tattoo seems like it was done well…
🙁 sadly i know people who would get this type of thing…
getting a tattoo of a recent mass murderer is horrible, im suprised anyone would do this tattoo
even worse since its still very recent… (not that getting other evil figures from further back isent bad too)
i dont see anything wrong with getting fictional evil charactors tattooed because they didnt hurt any real people
i do agree that hitler was a genius, evil and horrible, but still a genius and the tattoo is very well done
🙁 sadly i know people who would get this type of thing…
getting a tattoo of a recent mass murderer is horrible, im suprised anyone would do this tattoo
even worse since its still very recent… (not that getting other evil figures from further back isent bad too)
i dont see anything wrong with getting fictional evil charactors tattooed because they didnt hurt any real people
i do agree that hitler was a genius, evil and horrible, but still a genius and the tattoo is very well done
Perhaps I’m mistaken, but I don’t believe it’s original or unique for a Neo-Nazi to receive a Hitler tattoo. I’ve seen quite a few with similiar tattoos of varying quality. However, I don’t think that a Hitler tattoo necessarily brands one as a fascist. I assume that the individual is not aware of the significance of the man. I would defend one’s right to receive such a tattoo, but I would question the reasoning. It certainly is in poor taste.
Perhaps I’m mistaken, but I don’t believe it’s original or unique for a Neo-Nazi to receive a Hitler tattoo. I’ve seen quite a few with similiar tattoos of varying quality. However, I don’t think that a Hitler tattoo necessarily brands one as a fascist. I assume that the individual is not aware of the significance of the man. I would defend one’s right to receive such a tattoo, but I would question the reasoning. It certainly is in poor taste.
I’ve seen plenty of Hitler tattoos on Nazis, including some very technically well done ones.
I’ve seen plenty of Hitler tattoos on Nazis, including some very technically well done ones.
I am not offended in the least if I saw this tatto on somebody. It just doesn’t strike any chords in me :/
I am not offended in the least if I saw this tatto on somebody. It just doesn’t strike any chords in me :/
And it IS a very well done portrait.
And it IS a very well done portrait.
I can’t view someone getting a Hitler tattoo without neo-nazi connotations. I’d equally look down on someone getting an Idi Amin or even a Charles Manson tattoo in the West though. It’s one thing to glorify a fictional evil character (Freddy Krueger, Jason Vorhees, etc.) but to glorify someone who’s acts of murder still affect people today? Rubs me the wrong way to say the least.
I can’t view someone getting a Hitler tattoo without neo-nazi connotations. I’d equally look down on someone getting an Idi Amin or even a Charles Manson tattoo in the West though. It’s one thing to glorify a fictional evil character (Freddy Krueger, Jason Vorhees, etc.) but to glorify someone who’s acts of murder still affect people today? Rubs me the wrong way to say the least.
Without knowing a thing about the person’s motivation for this tattoo I don’t really think it’s fair for me (or anyone else) to pass judgement on them. Something about this tattoo really appeals to me. I think it’s just that it’s so… opinionated. I like that this is evil and inappropriate. I guess I’m just attracted to offensive things.
Without knowing a thing about the person’s motivation for this tattoo I don’t really think it’s fair for me (or anyone else) to pass judgement on them. Something about this tattoo really appeals to me. I think it’s just that it’s so… opinionated. I like that this is evil and inappropriate. I guess I’m just attracted to offensive things.
I don’t think this is a good idea, but I’d never tell someone he can’t…
That said, my first thought would be to wonder if I’m interacting with someone who thinks he’s clever, or some sort of Neo-Nazi.
I don’t think this is a good idea, but I’d never tell someone he can’t…
That said, my first thought would be to wonder if I’m interacting with someone who thinks he’s clever, or some sort of Neo-Nazi.
try getting a job with that asshole
try getting a job with that asshole
wait- Did this “Joseph” do the tattoo or personally encounter the tattoo? What does he say about it?
wait- Did this “Joseph” do the tattoo or personally encounter the tattoo? What does he say about it?
hmm himmel just aint cool neither is the guy with the dumb mustache well i hope you got your monies worth on the tat
hmm himmel just aint cool neither is the guy with the dumb mustache well i hope you got your monies worth on the tat
*rolls eyes* good one james. Intelligent and thoughtful
*rolls eyes* good one james. Intelligent and thoughtful
If you’ve ever used the reason “It’s my body” for getting a tattoo then you open up a flood gate. There is no line that can be drawn, it’s the body of the individual that they are getting tattooed and they have the choice to get whatever they want done.
I don’t agree with getting a Hitler tattoo, but I can’t really argue against it.
If you’ve ever used the reason “It’s my body” for getting a tattoo then you open up a flood gate. There is no line that can be drawn, it’s the body of the individual that they are getting tattooed and they have the choice to get whatever they want done.
I don’t agree with getting a Hitler tattoo, but I can’t really argue against it.
I’m under the impression that the guy doesn’t understand the full significance of that image. Everyone knows Hitler was a bad guy (major understatement) Maybe he doesn’t understand the raw emotion and pain that image evokes. It’s his body and he can do whatever he wants; it’s still a bad idea. There is an element of time and distance that desensitizes people to bad events and the disparity of different cultures can change the meaning of imagery, but when is ignorance ever a good excuse?
Any reasonable person can distinguish between fictional and real violence. I like horror movies and they glorify violence but no one really gets hurt. Some people might argue that skin removal and scarification glorify violence as well. I like mods, none of them make me feel like I’m a victim. Glorifying real human suffering and victimization is another matter. I think it’s tacky when people get tattoos of or even wear t-shirts depicting real-life mass murders and serial killers, that shows no respect for the victims. A Hitler tattoo goes beyond glorifying violence; it embodies evil, hatred, and genocide.
It’s his body, his choice, but I can’t imagine any context that would make a Hitler portrait tattoo appropriate.
I’m under the impression that the guy doesn’t understand the full significance of that image. Everyone knows Hitler was a bad guy (major understatement) Maybe he doesn’t understand the raw emotion and pain that image evokes. It’s his body and he can do whatever he wants; it’s still a bad idea. There is an element of time and distance that desensitizes people to bad events and the disparity of different cultures can change the meaning of imagery, but when is ignorance ever a good excuse?
Any reasonable person can distinguish between fictional and real violence. I like horror movies and they glorify violence but no one really gets hurt. Some people might argue that skin removal and scarification glorify violence as well. I like mods, none of them make me feel like I’m a victim. Glorifying real human suffering and victimization is another matter. I think it’s tacky when people get tattoos of or even wear t-shirts depicting real-life mass murders and serial killers, that shows no respect for the victims. A Hitler tattoo goes beyond glorifying violence; it embodies evil, hatred, and genocide.
It’s his body, his choice, but I can’t imagine any context that would make a Hitler portrait tattoo appropriate.
you did not learn from history, right?
you did not learn from history, right?
Considering that this tattoo was done in Singapore, and their skin does not look too fair, it makes me wonder what the hell they were thinking. I don’t think it is meant as a white power neo-nazi tattoo, but really don’t know what kind of messed up statement this person is making here.
Considering that this tattoo was done in Singapore, and their skin does not look too fair, it makes me wonder what the hell they were thinking. I don’t think it is meant as a white power neo-nazi tattoo, but really don’t know what kind of messed up statement this person is making here.
While I think it is in poor taste, I have to admire the persons bravery. Let’s face it, he now has a significantly higher chance on having the shit kicked out of him.
Time and distance as well as culture play such a huge role. For example, in Mongolia Genghis Khan is now considered a sort of national hero, a symbol of the countries rich history and military brilliance. While I would think that it is much more appropriate to admire Genghis Khan than Hitler, that’s only because my close ancestors weren’t conquered or killed by his army, and even if they were, it was so long ago. Whose to say that in a thousand years Hitler won’t be viewed in a more positive light?
However this isn’t the future, and I’m sure this guy realises the implications of his tattoo and the possibility of offending many people. Serial killer, dictator and pornographic tattoos are great if they float your boat, but I think they should be concealed when in public, if not out of respect for other people’s feelings, then at least to protect the wearer from being beat up.
While I think it is in poor taste, I have to admire the persons bravery. Let’s face it, he now has a significantly higher chance on having the shit kicked out of him.
Time and distance as well as culture play such a huge role. For example, in Mongolia Genghis Khan is now considered a sort of national hero, a symbol of the countries rich history and military brilliance. While I would think that it is much more appropriate to admire Genghis Khan than Hitler, that’s only because my close ancestors weren’t conquered or killed by his army, and even if they were, it was so long ago. Whose to say that in a thousand years Hitler won’t be viewed in a more positive light?
However this isn’t the future, and I’m sure this guy realises the implications of his tattoo and the possibility of offending many people. Serial killer, dictator and pornographic tattoos are great if they float your boat, but I think they should be concealed when in public, if not out of respect for other people’s feelings, then at least to protect the wearer from being beat up.
ok hello together. i’m from germany and i can’t understand how somebody want thsi face as a tattoo or what for a artist can make this with a pure conscience. sorry but i dont understand, when you here show a tattoo like this most ppl. want smash your head . . . no chance for fascism
ok hello together. i’m from germany and i can’t understand how somebody want thsi face as a tattoo or what for a artist can make this with a pure conscience. sorry but i dont understand, when you here show a tattoo like this most ppl. want smash your head . . . no chance for fascism
exitus – That’s because you’re from Germany and you’ve spent your entire life being pounded with that message. But honestly, hiding the symbols and history of fascism is the best way to have fascism RETURN. One, because anything that’s suppressed tends to grow, and two, because those who try and erase history are doomed to repeat it.
I’ll also add that when I was in Mexico, swastika shirts (full on Nazi style) were sold at the supermarket next to the knock-off West Coast Choppers gear. If there’s no direct cultural context, it just becomes something that people think represents strength (a valid enough argument, although I don’t personally agree with this implementation!).
exitus – That’s because you’re from Germany and you’ve spent your entire life being pounded with that message. But honestly, hiding the symbols and history of fascism is the best way to have fascism RETURN. One, because anything that’s suppressed tends to grow, and two, because those who try and erase history are doomed to repeat it.
I’ll also add that when I was in Mexico, swastika shirts (full on Nazi style) were sold at the supermarket next to the knock-off West Coast Choppers gear. If there’s no direct cultural context, it just becomes something that people think represents strength (a valid enough argument, although I don’t personally agree with this implementation!).
that suck! go to hell u nazi shit!
that suck! go to hell u nazi shit!
We are all individual and have the right to do whateva we want to ourselves. We all believe in different things and have different oppinions on whats right and wrong. I DON’T agree with anything hitler stood for but i have some friends that do. That doesn’t bother me because thats how they feel… NOT ME, so i dont judge them and visa versa.. I agree with Amanda, what eva floats ur boat…
We are all individual and have the right to do whateva we want to ourselves. We all believe in different things and have different oppinions on whats right and wrong. I DON’T agree with anything hitler stood for but i have some friends that do. That doesn’t bother me because thats how they feel… NOT ME, so i dont judge them and visa versa.. I agree with Amanda, what eva floats ur boat…
As a Jew, and as someone who lives in Israel, I don’t think I need to say what I think about this tattoo. As much as it makes me sick, It’s his choice. There’s a basic thing called freedom of speech, and even though I think it’s un-human and disgusting to have a tattoo like this done, no one has the right to tell him what to do.
I’m hurt, that there are people around the world that still want the Jews to be dead, and I’m even more hurt by the fact that people are proud of those things and thoughts.
Well… I’m rambling, but the point is that he’ll live with the consequences, and it was and is his choice to do this tattoo, and it’s his right – as painful as it is for me to say so.
At least, from a technical aspect it’s done correctly :\
As a Jew, and as someone who lives in Israel, I don’t think I need to say what I think about this tattoo. As much as it makes me sick, It’s his choice. There’s a basic thing called freedom of speech, and even though I think it’s un-human and disgusting to have a tattoo like this done, no one has the right to tell him what to do.
I’m hurt, that there are people around the world that still want the Jews to be dead, and I’m even more hurt by the fact that people are proud of those things and thoughts.
Well… I’m rambling, but the point is that he’ll live with the consequences, and it was and is his choice to do this tattoo, and it’s his right – as painful as it is for me to say so.
At least, from a technical aspect it’s done correctly :\
lsifer “i’m for freedom of speech, but i’m also for freedom of beating the shit out of this guy if i see him.”
ummmm….
lsifer “i’m for freedom of speech, but i’m also for freedom of beating the shit out of this guy if i see him.”
ummmm….
TristaniA – I don’t *think* this is an anti-Jewish tattoo in INTENT. But I do agree it will be interpretted that way in the West.
TristaniA – I don’t *think* this is an anti-Jewish tattoo in INTENT. But I do agree it will be interpretted that way in the West.
It’s interesting to me how no historical figure is quite taken to embody evil in the way Hitler is, and there’s been a hell of a lot of terrible atrocity in the world.
It’s interesting to me how no historical figure is quite taken to embody evil in the way Hitler is, and there’s been a hell of a lot of terrible atrocity in the world.
hey great…let them where signs like this so we can sort them out…it is the way they did it…its the way they want to be handled…;-)
but serious :
the tattoo and the fact that it gets public attention is avulgar display of arrogance against history and millions of dead people…and it gives more nazi-shit the hint :”oh.. i can show that in public…so its not as cruel as i thought….”
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a big “GOOD NIGHT WHITE PRIDE” from germany…
hey great…let them where signs like this so we can sort them out…it is the way they did it…its the way they want to be handled…;-)
but serious :
the tattoo and the fact that it gets public attention is avulgar display of arrogance against history and millions of dead people…and it gives more nazi-shit the hint :”oh.. i can show that in public…so its not as cruel as i thought….”
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a big “GOOD NIGHT WHITE PRIDE” from germany…
Shannon: “But honestly, hiding the symbols and history of fascism is the best way to have fascism RETURN.”
I think that there are much more tasteful ways of doing so. See: http://www.snopes.com/disney/wdco/dismural.htm
Not saying he shouldn’t be allowed, just saying that if this was his intent, it’s in poor taste.
Shannon: “But honestly, hiding the symbols and history of fascism is the best way to have fascism RETURN.”
I think that there are much more tasteful ways of doing so. See: http://www.snopes.com/disney/wdco/dismural.htm
Not saying he shouldn’t be allowed, just saying that if this was his intent, it’s in poor taste.
how do athiests feel about jesus tattoo’s? maybe this guy agrees with hitler, and his basic intent to purifie the world to a single blood line, or no jews blood line. as wrong as it is, or may seem to those that don’t share the same idea. i’m not saying it’s not going to offend some one. he killed alot of people. but the usa is killing people in iraq right now, and the irai’s and such are killing lots of people right now. what do american flag tattoos stand for then to those from countries that have been bomber by us armies? again, i’m not saying jesus is evil, but thosands of people were killed in the inquisition and in the name of christ. millions were tourtured, and killed even by a currupt church under with currupt leaders, so just because our views don’t line up with his and his tattoos is offensive (even to me) think about every thing else that every one else has done, and like it has been said in a hundred years what will this guys tattoo mean to any one. he probably isn’t going to change anything by this one tattoo. so i guess i’m saying i cann’t judge him just because i don;t believe what he does.
how do athiests feel about jesus tattoo’s? maybe this guy agrees with hitler, and his basic intent to purifie the world to a single blood line, or no jews blood line. as wrong as it is, or may seem to those that don’t share the same idea. i’m not saying it’s not going to offend some one. he killed alot of people. but the usa is killing people in iraq right now, and the irai’s and such are killing lots of people right now. what do american flag tattoos stand for then to those from countries that have been bomber by us armies? again, i’m not saying jesus is evil, but thosands of people were killed in the inquisition and in the name of christ. millions were tourtured, and killed even by a currupt church under with currupt leaders, so just because our views don’t line up with his and his tattoos is offensive (even to me) think about every thing else that every one else has done, and like it has been said in a hundred years what will this guys tattoo mean to any one. he probably isn’t going to change anything by this one tattoo. so i guess i’m saying i cann’t judge him just because i don;t believe what he does.
Really I don’t see much difference between this and a tattoo of say, Charlie Manson. No Manson wasn’t responsible for Genocide but he was still a maniac and a murderer. If this was a manson tattoo I highly doubt it would get a fraction of the comments here. Also since we do not know the context of the tattoo it is unfair to pass judgement. History teaches us all about Hitler and his Nazi regime and his atrocities against many groups, we learn and remember so things like that may never come to pass again. Now to remember may not be the reason for this tattoo but until I do know the reason I reserve my judgement.
Really I don’t see much difference between this and a tattoo of say, Charlie Manson. No Manson wasn’t responsible for Genocide but he was still a maniac and a murderer. If this was a manson tattoo I highly doubt it would get a fraction of the comments here. Also since we do not know the context of the tattoo it is unfair to pass judgement. History teaches us all about Hitler and his Nazi regime and his atrocities against many groups, we learn and remember so things like that may never come to pass again. Now to remember may not be the reason for this tattoo but until I do know the reason I reserve my judgement.
Wow, and the hypocrites pour in.
I’ve seen so many people’s comments like “ew gross!” get completely slammed by this community. You’ll say “Who the hell are you to criticize his/her decision” or “pleasure si different for everyone yadda yadda yadda” But when something offends you guys/girls it’s OKAY to say what you want. (i.e. all beat that guy’s ass. et. al.)
I’m not endorsing Hitler in anyway, I think he was a horrible person. But if outsiders aren’t allowed to post their negative thoughts regarding mods without a backlash, then shouldn’t the rest of you bottle it up too? I mean, I understand a lot of you think this tattoo was in poor taste, but I think the majority of people out there in the world would say the same about any/all mods. (especailly the stuff we do and see on here lol)
Discuss.
Wow, and the hypocrites pour in.
I’ve seen so many people’s comments like “ew gross!” get completely slammed by this community. You’ll say “Who the hell are you to criticize his/her decision” or “pleasure si different for everyone yadda yadda yadda” But when something offends you guys/girls it’s OKAY to say what you want. (i.e. all beat that guy’s ass. et. al.)
I’m not endorsing Hitler in anyway, I think he was a horrible person. But if outsiders aren’t allowed to post their negative thoughts regarding mods without a backlash, then shouldn’t the rest of you bottle it up too? I mean, I understand a lot of you think this tattoo was in poor taste, but I think the majority of people out there in the world would say the same about any/all mods. (especailly the stuff we do and see on here lol)
Discuss.
Since this tattoo was done in Singapore, is it possible that the tattoo was inspired by Hong Kong Nazi chic spreading to that country?
Warning: the link goes to Little Green Footballs, a right-wing shithole.
Since this tattoo was done in Singapore, is it possible that the tattoo was inspired by Hong Kong Nazi chic spreading to that country?
Warning: the link goes to Little Green Footballs, a right-wing shithole.
did a portrait of hitler actually get compared to jesus and genital modification? clearly they didn’t get the tattoo because they liked his paintings, if you seek out a hateful tattoo, likely that is how you expect people to interpret it.
did a portrait of hitler actually get compared to jesus and genital modification? clearly they didn’t get the tattoo because they liked his paintings, if you seek out a hateful tattoo, likely that is how you expect people to interpret it.
i don’t see why people are getting so worked up about this tattoo. i think it’s wonderful, and i’m not a nazi. at least they are standing up for what they believe in, rather than caving into societies pressures which denote what is acceptable and what isn’t.
i don’t see why people are getting so worked up about this tattoo. i think it’s wonderful, and i’m not a nazi. at least they are standing up for what they believe in, rather than caving into societies pressures which denote what is acceptable and what isn’t.
sleeping – Maybe they’re a huge Volkswagen fan.
sleeping – Maybe they’re a huge Volkswagen fan.
I actually find hitler and people like him quite interesting.now,i wouldn’t take that interest so far as to get a tattoo of hitler but i’m not guy in the photo…it is a nice protrait tattoo though:/
I actually find hitler and people like him quite interesting.now,i wouldn’t take that interest so far as to get a tattoo of hitler but i’m not guy in the photo…it is a nice protrait tattoo though:/
I wonder what kind of reaction a George W portrait tattoo would receive…?
I wonder what kind of reaction a George W portrait tattoo would receive…?
i beat the guy with the G.B. tattoo up.
no, i’m just being an ass, lol.
i beat the guy with the G.B. tattoo up.
no, i’m just being an ass, lol.
“But honestly, hiding the symbols and history of fascism is the best way to have fascism RETURN.”
Ok, but this tattoo isn’t about teaching people history. If we are at the point where people are so far removed from the history that they can be blase about it and say “Oh yeah Hitler, nice work, nice tattoo” and commend this guy for being brave this suggests total indifference to the victims. In my opinion, INDIFFERENCE is best way to let fascism return. I’m not saying delete or hide fascist imagery from history, I’m asking why should I defend a Hitler tattoo? Because I defend freedom of speech and it’s his body and I’m a hypocrite if I don’t. Ok that’s true, I do defend freedom of speech and expression, but that doesn’t mean I have to like it or compliment the guy on his bold and brave gesture.
I don’t feel like a hypocrite. I’m not telling the guy he can’t have it, I’m telling the guy it’s a stupid tattoo. Just like he’s allowed his opinions, I’m allowed mine. I don’t see how his right to express himself negates mine and vice versa.
I get that some people like confrontational imagery, but this still really hurts people. It’s most confrontational to the people who suffered, to the people who have lost family. Why go there?
“But honestly, hiding the symbols and history of fascism is the best way to have fascism RETURN.”
Ok, but this tattoo isn’t about teaching people history. If we are at the point where people are so far removed from the history that they can be blase about it and say “Oh yeah Hitler, nice work, nice tattoo” and commend this guy for being brave this suggests total indifference to the victims. In my opinion, INDIFFERENCE is best way to let fascism return. I’m not saying delete or hide fascist imagery from history, I’m asking why should I defend a Hitler tattoo? Because I defend freedom of speech and it’s his body and I’m a hypocrite if I don’t. Ok that’s true, I do defend freedom of speech and expression, but that doesn’t mean I have to like it or compliment the guy on his bold and brave gesture.
I don’t feel like a hypocrite. I’m not telling the guy he can’t have it, I’m telling the guy it’s a stupid tattoo. Just like he’s allowed his opinions, I’m allowed mine. I don’t see how his right to express himself negates mine and vice versa.
I get that some people like confrontational imagery, but this still really hurts people. It’s most confrontational to the people who suffered, to the people who have lost family. Why go there?
You guys are all so negative. What about all the good things Hitler did?
You guys are all so negative. What about all the good things Hitler did?
I think the point that most commenters are missing (and Shannon keeps repeating over and over) is that it’s probably not an emotionally-loaded image for the Singaporean wearer as it is to most Westerners. And to defend myself about 40 comments ago, I am of Jewish descent (Jewish enough that I wouldn’t have stood a chance in Nazi Germany) and lost several family members during the Holocaust, but I am still self-aware enough to choose NOT to be hurt by hateful imagery or whatever. Having a big cry because there are anti-semites is exactly what anti-semites want. That being said, I’m honestly not terribly convinced the wearer of this tattoo is anti-semitic. 🙂
And how can anyone say that’s not a technically well-done portrait, no matter who the subject is?
I think the point that most commenters are missing (and Shannon keeps repeating over and over) is that it’s probably not an emotionally-loaded image for the Singaporean wearer as it is to most Westerners. And to defend myself about 40 comments ago, I am of Jewish descent (Jewish enough that I wouldn’t have stood a chance in Nazi Germany) and lost several family members during the Holocaust, but I am still self-aware enough to choose NOT to be hurt by hateful imagery or whatever. Having a big cry because there are anti-semites is exactly what anti-semites want. That being said, I’m honestly not terribly convinced the wearer of this tattoo is anti-semitic. 🙂
And how can anyone say that’s not a technically well-done portrait, no matter who the subject is?
At the end of the day…it’s just tattoo. Having Hitler’s face tattooed on you isn’t going to change history. It is not our place to judge someone based on what they choose to etch on their skin anyway. And although maybe not the nicest or best subject matter around, you have to respect the fact that you can’t dismiss a tattoo on wether it will offend people or not.
Personal tastes are indeed a funny thing, as I’d much rather my partner had a well done portrait of Hitler on him than the two naked women he has currently. Whereas the majority would think that as downright crazy!
At the end of the day…it’s just tattoo. Having Hitler’s face tattooed on you isn’t going to change history. It is not our place to judge someone based on what they choose to etch on their skin anyway. And although maybe not the nicest or best subject matter around, you have to respect the fact that you can’t dismiss a tattoo on wether it will offend people or not.
Personal tastes are indeed a funny thing, as I’d much rather my partner had a well done portrait of Hitler on him than the two naked women he has currently. Whereas the majority would think that as downright crazy!
All this technique talk is ridiculous, as if a well done portrait of hitler is somehow better because of the care that went into it.
All this technique talk is ridiculous, as if a well done portrait of hitler is somehow better because of the care that went into it.
Whether or not he understands the meaning, he is making a political statement. Ok, passing judgement on this guy’s character is wrong because it’s not based on anything more than this picture. Still, I can’t help but ask why he chose this? I’m making assumptions because I know some people sometimes chose their tattoos based on symbolic meaning and Hitler seems like a poor choice to me for a fun meaningless tattoo. Symbols can mean different things in different cultures, take the swastika for example, but Hitler’s face? There’s nothing really ambiguous about Hitler so I am confused by the subtext. I agree with Shannon, Reclaim the swastika. Great. Reclaim Hitler? No, not so much. And as for judging the merits of a tattoo, it’s art, subject matter does come into play. But I agree it’s his body his choice.
Whether or not he understands the meaning, he is making a political statement. Ok, passing judgement on this guy’s character is wrong because it’s not based on anything more than this picture. Still, I can’t help but ask why he chose this? I’m making assumptions because I know some people sometimes chose their tattoos based on symbolic meaning and Hitler seems like a poor choice to me for a fun meaningless tattoo. Symbols can mean different things in different cultures, take the swastika for example, but Hitler’s face? There’s nothing really ambiguous about Hitler so I am confused by the subtext. I agree with Shannon, Reclaim the swastika. Great. Reclaim Hitler? No, not so much. And as for judging the merits of a tattoo, it’s art, subject matter does come into play. But I agree it’s his body his choice.
The point raised earlier about Jesus tattoos is rather ridiculous. Sure, assholes have used his name to justify dreadful things, but he wasn’t directly involved in the attempt to exterminate minorities.
The point raised earlier about Jesus tattoos is rather ridiculous. Sure, assholes have used his name to justify dreadful things, but he wasn’t directly involved in the attempt to exterminate minorities.
just making a point, jesus and god were the focus of the ideology behind behind millions of murders, as hittler, while directly involved, was behind the nazi murders and ideology, and still is an ideological symbol to neo-nazi’s. so both couldon some level be found offensive. though yes, the hitler tattoo is more so offensive to more people and jesus tattoos are definatly out there way way in the back with the least offense. i’m not saying jesus is an evil killer, or that i support hitler(i don’t). i know it sounds a bit ridiculous, i just happen to be tired of all the christchenes in this area being ass holes in the name of jesus. so that kind of influenced my comparison.
just making a point, jesus and god were the focus of the ideology behind behind millions of murders, as hittler, while directly involved, was behind the nazi murders and ideology, and still is an ideological symbol to neo-nazi’s. so both couldon some level be found offensive. though yes, the hitler tattoo is more so offensive to more people and jesus tattoos are definatly out there way way in the back with the least offense. i’m not saying jesus is an evil killer, or that i support hitler(i don’t). i know it sounds a bit ridiculous, i just happen to be tired of all the christchenes in this area being ass holes in the name of jesus. so that kind of influenced my comparison.
what about the reclamation of the swastika? i’m all for that. it’s a beautiful symbol that has been bastardized by historical evil, and it gives me satisfaction to see a “peace swastika” on someone.
how to differentiate, though?
what about the reclamation of the swastika? i’m all for that. it’s a beautiful symbol that has been bastardized by historical evil, and it gives me satisfaction to see a “peace swastika” on someone.
how to differentiate, though?
This Hitler this for me very deny for my taste
This Hitler this for me very deny for my taste
This Hitler this for me very deny for my taste
This Hitler this for me very deny for my taste
[irony]I think Hitler himself would find a nice solution for the discussion above, the problem of man with Hitler’s tattoo. He’d just kill that guy for the sake of purity of white race.[/irony]
I’m wondering if tattoo’s owner is aware of this…
[irony]I think Hitler himself would find a nice solution for the discussion above, the problem of man with Hitler’s tattoo. He’d just kill that guy for the sake of purity of white race.[/irony]
I’m wondering if tattoo’s owner is aware of this…
Above, someone commented, “In Mongolia Genghis Khan is now considered a sort of national hero, a symbol of the countries rich history and military brilliance.” In Mongolia, people like Hitler too, because they see him as a great conquerer in the tradition of Genchis Khan. One guy told us how he really wanted to go to Germany to see the tomb of Hitler, and we tried to explain that Hitler was not a national hero there.
Above, someone commented, “In Mongolia Genghis Khan is now considered a sort of national hero, a symbol of the countries rich history and military brilliance.” In Mongolia, people like Hitler too, because they see him as a great conquerer in the tradition of Genchis Khan. One guy told us how he really wanted to go to Germany to see the tomb of Hitler, and we tried to explain that Hitler was not a national hero there.
Thanks, Sandy — I think you’ve explained why I found this tattoo interesting (and thus posted it) very well. I find it fascinating how history is interpretted radically differently from different viewpoints.
Thanks, Sandy — I think you’ve explained why I found this tattoo interesting (and thus posted it) very well. I find it fascinating how history is interpretted radically differently from different viewpoints.
I can only imagine that having a tattoo of Hitler must fill a weakness, a need for revenge on society, because someone hurt or molested you.
I can only imagine that having a tattoo of Hitler must fill a weakness, a need for revenge on society, because someone hurt or molested you.
personally i think its a good tattoo cause everybody has diff believes this guy thinks hitler was a good man that thats wat he believes in and im with him i think hitler was a good man i think i might get one too.
personally i think its a good tattoo cause everybody has diff believes this guy thinks hitler was a good man that thats wat he believes in and im with him i think hitler was a good man i think i might get one too.
Yes yes hitlers bad, i think its abit obvious.
fair play to the guy, its well done and he must like it.
flame me if you want but hitler was probably the best ruler, not for what he did, but for how he controlled people.
Yes yes hitlers bad, i think its abit obvious.
fair play to the guy, its well done and he must like it.
flame me if you want but hitler was probably the best ruler, not for what he did, but for how he controlled people.
YAY!
I don´t know what all you commy faggots get all jacked up about.
to the stupid idiot who said hitler was the worst.. how about Stalin? he killed about 127 millions..
yadayada.. im tatooing a swastika some day.. just because i can ^_^
YAY!
I don´t know what all you commy faggots get all jacked up about.
to the stupid idiot who said hitler was the worst.. how about Stalin? he killed about 127 millions..
yadayada.. im tatooing a swastika some day.. just because i can ^_^
Incidently, the irony here isn’t completely lost on me. Some people are so concerned with being considered open-minded, negative opinions about Hitler are unwelcome. Open-mindedness is well-intentioned but some are suggesting that, although they acknowledge Hitler was bad, we should look for a positive side to Hitler, but look at how effective and efficient he was. No. No kudos for Hitler. No kudos for Stalin. No kudos for genocide. Much sympathy for the families of victims of atrocities and genocide committed by any dictator throughout history.
Incidently, the irony here isn’t completely lost on me. Some people are so concerned with being considered open-minded, negative opinions about Hitler are unwelcome. Open-mindedness is well-intentioned but some are suggesting that, although they acknowledge Hitler was bad, we should look for a positive side to Hitler, but look at how effective and efficient he was. No. No kudos for Hitler. No kudos for Stalin. No kudos for genocide. Much sympathy for the families of victims of atrocities and genocide committed by any dictator throughout history.
Man, somehow this strikes me more as “what a retard” than a full-on white power tattoo kind of a thing. That said, Hitler is always a pretty tacky thing to be sporting. Christers.
Man, somehow this strikes me more as “what a retard” than a full-on white power tattoo kind of a thing. That said, Hitler is always a pretty tacky thing to be sporting. Christers.
Man that is amazing. That is crazy. Looks friggin’ good!
Man that is amazing. That is crazy. Looks friggin’ good!
I agree with whomever mentioned the hypocrisy in being open-minded to extremes in modification, but not to potentially offensive tattoos. If you’re going to preach about being nonjudgmental about people’s choices, then don’t be judgmental about their choices, no matter what they are.
I agree with whomever mentioned the hypocrisy in being open-minded to extremes in modification, but not to potentially offensive tattoos. If you’re going to preach about being nonjudgmental about people’s choices, then don’t be judgmental about their choices, no matter what they are.
I guess I see a distinction between personal mods and personal mods with political connotations. I do defend extreme mods. I equate modification with personal gratification. Personal mods don’t typically carry the additional subtext of “kill all Jews”
I think it’s ironic that it’s considered hypocritical and unjust to not embrace Hitler. To oppose all the things Hitler symbolizes including intolerance and prejudice then suddenly to embrace Hitler just to avoid being called a hypocrite, is hypocritical in itself isn’t it?
I do believe people are entitled to have different opinions.
If this guy has a right to have opinions, then in all fairness, I have a right to mine.
I’m not threatening to beat this guy up. I’m not calling him names (though I did at one point call the tattoo itself stupid) I’m far too cynical to accept that all judging is wrong. I don’t believe that having an opinion that is positive or negative is inherently unethical. Judging is part of human nature, though I agree it can be reckless and unfair to judge without knowing all the facts. Maybe I’m wrong, but I can’t fathom any context that tells me that this tattoo is a good idea. That’s just my opinion. He has his opinion and I have mine.
No one is completely immune from criticism. I’ll defend someone like Freakboy for example because I don’t think it’s cool to threaten someone or abuse someone just because they are different. Criticism is ok, abuse isn’t. And that is just my opinion.
I guess I see a distinction between personal mods and personal mods with political connotations. I do defend extreme mods. I equate modification with personal gratification. Personal mods don’t typically carry the additional subtext of “kill all Jews”
I think it’s ironic that it’s considered hypocritical and unjust to not embrace Hitler. To oppose all the things Hitler symbolizes including intolerance and prejudice then suddenly to embrace Hitler just to avoid being called a hypocrite, is hypocritical in itself isn’t it?
I do believe people are entitled to have different opinions.
If this guy has a right to have opinions, then in all fairness, I have a right to mine.
I’m not threatening to beat this guy up. I’m not calling him names (though I did at one point call the tattoo itself stupid) I’m far too cynical to accept that all judging is wrong. I don’t believe that having an opinion that is positive or negative is inherently unethical. Judging is part of human nature, though I agree it can be reckless and unfair to judge without knowing all the facts. Maybe I’m wrong, but I can’t fathom any context that tells me that this tattoo is a good idea. That’s just my opinion. He has his opinion and I have mine.
No one is completely immune from criticism. I’ll defend someone like Freakboy for example because I don’t think it’s cool to threaten someone or abuse someone just because they are different. Criticism is ok, abuse isn’t. And that is just my opinion.
Two Words: Shock Value
There are TONS of tattoos that are recieved purely to make people gasp when they see them either because they are funny, shocking or gory. This is just the same kind of thing but I’m sure in some people’s minds they crossed the line.
Two Words: Shock Value
There are TONS of tattoos that are recieved purely to make people gasp when they see them either because they are funny, shocking or gory. This is just the same kind of thing but I’m sure in some people’s minds they crossed the line.
I know I’m overpowered here.. (like the jews were with hitler) ANYWAYS.
I think the tattoo is brilliant.. THAT is a tattoo that shows power,strength, not so much loyalty..
But hiltler, He was great.. Not in a good way.. but the man had power. He was brilliant.
The man is a hero to some. You may find this comment discusting, but I really don’t care. He was almost everything many people wished they could be.
Good job on the tattoo though.
I know I’m overpowered here.. (like the jews were with hitler) ANYWAYS.
I think the tattoo is brilliant.. THAT is a tattoo that shows power,strength, not so much loyalty..
But hiltler, He was great.. Not in a good way.. but the man had power. He was brilliant.
The man is a hero to some. You may find this comment discusting, but I really don’t care. He was almost everything many people wished they could be.
Good job on the tattoo though.
lichelle is absolutely correct.
he was a monster, but he didnt become as powerful as he did without the majority support; he didnt sneak into power.
think for yourselves for a moment, not what is the popular opinion of hating hitler because you’re supposed to and because everyone is terrified of being identified as racist: but the man was brilliant, charismatic, and resourceful. you dont have to post, just use your brain for a moment instead of the mobs.
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lichelle is absolutely correct.
he was a monster, but he didnt become as powerful as he did without the majority support; he didnt sneak into power.
think for yourselves for a moment, not what is the popular opinion of hating hitler because you’re supposed to and because everyone is terrified of being identified as racist: but the man was brilliant, charismatic, and resourceful. you dont have to post, just use your brain for a moment instead of the mobs.
modifire
Sure Hitler dazzled people with his speeches, sure he won people over through indoctrination and the threat of force.
You’re right, it’s not like Hitler’s rise to power had anything to do with the post WWI economy in Germany. He won people over with his charm, charisma and eloquence. It had nothing to do with the economic or political instability of the time. It had nothing to do with the frustration, resentment, humiliation and betrayal people felt by their democratic government signing the Treaty of Versailles.
There were dozens of factors that brought him to power, maybe some people think he’s a genius for capitalizing on them, but I don’t think he would have been in power if the right conditions weren’t in place beforehand. I don’t see a reason to give him full credit for his success.
Andrew, from what I read in this post, the general consensus gives you support. I’m the one who stands alone with my views, so there is no need to worry about my inability to think for myself.
Sure Hitler dazzled people with his speeches, sure he won people over through indoctrination and the threat of force.
You’re right, it’s not like Hitler’s rise to power had anything to do with the post WWI economy in Germany. He won people over with his charm, charisma and eloquence. It had nothing to do with the economic or political instability of the time. It had nothing to do with the frustration, resentment, humiliation and betrayal people felt by their democratic government signing the Treaty of Versailles.
There were dozens of factors that brought him to power, maybe some people think he’s a genius for capitalizing on them, but I don’t think he would have been in power if the right conditions weren’t in place beforehand. I don’t see a reason to give him full credit for his success.
Andrew, from what I read in this post, the general consensus gives you support. I’m the one who stands alone with my views, so there is no need to worry about my inability to think for myself.
I do not realy think its a bad idea doing portraits tatoos imo its lack of imagination and show a lack of personality ,however i do not agree on your coments on evilness ,Hitler was a school girl compared to his contemporaries.Now as far as statements like “it should be ilegal or not alowed;i’ll beat him up if i see him” go,u should strart wondering who the fasist is….
p.s. nice work though.
I do not realy think its a bad idea doing portraits tatoos imo its lack of imagination and show a lack of personality ,however i do not agree on your coments on evilness ,Hitler was a school girl compared to his contemporaries.Now as far as statements like “it should be ilegal or not alowed;i’ll beat him up if i see him” go,u should strart wondering who the fasist is….
p.s. nice work though.
o.k… that’s really not funny
not in any way or shape…
just one person sick on his mind…
o.k… that’s really not funny
not in any way or shape…
just one person sick on his mind…
that is sick..
but i do admit the detail on it, is very nice work, but just on the wrong tattoo
that is sick..
but i do admit the detail on it, is very nice work, but just on the wrong tattoo
I think that this is a gross display of ignorance. How could you, without being a supremacist, forever ingrain a portrait of a murderer in your body? To display such a disregard to other cultures and the common way of life is dispicable. You should seek to understand before you act. Hitler killed himself for a reason, he was a coward and he knew what he did was wrong. He knew he would have to pay for the crimes and he was to coward. Learn from the mistakes of the people you look up to.
I think that this is a gross display of ignorance. How could you, without being a supremacist, forever ingrain a portrait of a murderer in your body? To display such a disregard to other cultures and the common way of life is dispicable. You should seek to understand before you act. Hitler killed himself for a reason, he was a coward and he knew what he did was wrong. He knew he would have to pay for the crimes and he was to coward. Learn from the mistakes of the people you look up to.
“He won people over with his charm, charisma and eloquence.”
And the gun to their head?
“He won people over with his charm, charisma and eloquence.”
And the gun to their head?
Would you have glorified this mad man had he sent your brothers, sisters, mother or father to the gas chamber?
Would you have glorified this mad man had he sent your brothers, sisters, mother or father to the gas chamber?
White Power
fuck what everybody says
thats clean!!!!!!!!!
keep on brother!!!!!!!!
SS
White Power
fuck what everybody says
thats clean!!!!!!!!!
keep on brother!!!!!!!!
SS
white knight can go F*CK YOURSELF!
white knight can go F*CK YOURSELF!
I would never get something like that personally, but I think that it’s total crap that all these people are like “I’m all for freedom of speech/expression, but ONLY if I agree with it”. And yes, that is how many people act. If you don’t like it, well, that’s too bad. No one is asking you to, just mind your own business. Everyone has a right to their own beliefs, whether other people agree with them or not. By hating someone (like Hitler) for what they believe in, you are no better than them. It completely against everything you supposedly stand for.
Hitler killed himself because he was a coward? First of all, the man had Parkinson’s disease, which I think we all know is bad times. Might as well just end it. And I’m pretty sure the Japanese samuri’s would ALWAYS kill themselves rather than be captured, yet they were looked upon as honorable. Why was that situation any different?
I would never get something like that personally, but I think that it’s total crap that all these people are like “I’m all for freedom of speech/expression, but ONLY if I agree with it”. And yes, that is how many people act. If you don’t like it, well, that’s too bad. No one is asking you to, just mind your own business. Everyone has a right to their own beliefs, whether other people agree with them or not. By hating someone (like Hitler) for what they believe in, you are no better than them. It completely against everything you supposedly stand for.
Hitler killed himself because he was a coward? First of all, the man had Parkinson’s disease, which I think we all know is bad times. Might as well just end it. And I’m pretty sure the Japanese samuri’s would ALWAYS kill themselves rather than be captured, yet they were looked upon as honorable. Why was that situation any different?
So Alyssa, would you be so forgiving if Hitler had marched members of your family including young children into gas chambers. I suggest you go read up on some of the things Hitler ordered to be done maybe you would not be quite so understanding. He was a total monster. Why glorify such an evil bastard.
Personally if the person with this tattoo was a close friend of mine I would walk away from them, as this is one step to far for me and im sure a lot of others.
If Hitler killed himself, and I say IF, then he was a total coward who could not face up to what he had done, maybe it sickened even him to his stomach.
People like you Alyssa need to realise the suffering our fore fathers went through trying to stop this mad man. Weeks and months up to their waists in trenches, freezing cold soaking wet, and when captured tortured and starved to death…and you want this fucking lunatic glorified..
Shame on you woman !!!!!!!
So Alyssa, would you be so forgiving if Hitler had marched members of your family including young children into gas chambers. I suggest you go read up on some of the things Hitler ordered to be done maybe you would not be quite so understanding. He was a total monster. Why glorify such an evil bastard.
Personally if the person with this tattoo was a close friend of mine I would walk away from them, as this is one step to far for me and im sure a lot of others.
If Hitler killed himself, and I say IF, then he was a total coward who could not face up to what he had done, maybe it sickened even him to his stomach.
People like you Alyssa need to realise the suffering our fore fathers went through trying to stop this mad man. Weeks and months up to their waists in trenches, freezing cold soaking wet, and when captured tortured and starved to death…and you want this fucking lunatic glorified..
Shame on you woman !!!!!!!
Thought I included this in that, but I guess not.
It was more meant that some people thought the man did bring out great advancements to the world, ASIDE from the whole Holocaust thing. Definitely not saying that was good times.
My point really is, that is someone wants to have something like that, well, then they should be allowed to. Anybody should be allowed to BELIEVE in whatever they want, whether it’s based on hate or not (although acting on that would be another story).
Thought I included this in that, but I guess not.
It was more meant that some people thought the man did bring out great advancements to the world, ASIDE from the whole Holocaust thing. Definitely not saying that was good times.
My point really is, that is someone wants to have something like that, well, then they should be allowed to. Anybody should be allowed to BELIEVE in whatever they want, whether it’s based on hate or not (although acting on that would be another story).
Alyssa, Im the most chilled out person, and I believe people should be allowed to do whatever they want in life. But why some choose to act with total disregard to other peoples feelings is way past my comprehension.
Imagine if this idiot lived next door to some elderly person whos family sustained loses at the hands of Hitler and his bunch of hench men, how would they feel seeing that bastard inked into someones arm.
I like cute mens asses but I wouldnt have one tattooed on my forehead lol 🙂
Alyssa, Im the most chilled out person, and I believe people should be allowed to do whatever they want in life. But why some choose to act with total disregard to other peoples feelings is way past my comprehension.
Imagine if this idiot lived next door to some elderly person whos family sustained loses at the hands of Hitler and his bunch of hench men, how would they feel seeing that bastard inked into someones arm.
I like cute mens asses but I wouldnt have one tattooed on my forehead lol 🙂
would the same people that are appalled by this hitler tattoo be so appalled by a tattoo of stalin or che guevara, i see people walking around with t-shirts that have the hammer and sycle communist symbol on it, t-shirts with USSR on it, that you can buy in high street shops and shops in shopping centres all over the world, dont forget the communists murdered so many more millions than the nazis ever did. And as for people saying that the nazis were dumb and stupid, learn some history, read some books. Nazi germany was the most technological advanced nation in the world, it was german scientists that invented the atom bomb used on japan, werner von braun ( a nazi party member ) was put in charge of the NASA space program which beat the russians to the moon.
This is totally off topic but i get pissed off with hypocritical idiots and ignorant fools who talk without knowing. The hammer and sycle is infinately more murderous and barbaric a symbol as the swastika. I wouldnt have hitler drawn on my arm or leg or anyway but if its a choice then respect it, dont say ‘ im gonna beat the shit of this guy if i see him ‘ because you know you wont.
the tattoo itself, from an artistic point of view? looks pretty good
would the same people that are appalled by this hitler tattoo be so appalled by a tattoo of stalin or che guevara, i see people walking around with t-shirts that have the hammer and sycle communist symbol on it, t-shirts with USSR on it, that you can buy in high street shops and shops in shopping centres all over the world, dont forget the communists murdered so many more millions than the nazis ever did. And as for people saying that the nazis were dumb and stupid, learn some history, read some books. Nazi germany was the most technological advanced nation in the world, it was german scientists that invented the atom bomb used on japan, werner von braun ( a nazi party member ) was put in charge of the NASA space program which beat the russians to the moon.
This is totally off topic but i get pissed off with hypocritical idiots and ignorant fools who talk without knowing. The hammer and sycle is infinately more murderous and barbaric a symbol as the swastika. I wouldnt have hitler drawn on my arm or leg or anyway but if its a choice then respect it, dont say ‘ im gonna beat the shit of this guy if i see him ‘ because you know you wont.
the tattoo itself, from an artistic point of view? looks pretty good
Jonny ur as dumb as u R stupid qoute “The hammer and sycle is infinately more murderous and barbaric a symbol as the swastika. ”
15:1 · The swastika is a very old ideogram. The first such signs preserved to our days were found in the Euphrates-Tigris valley, and in some areas of the Indus valley. They seem to be more than 3,000 years old. Yet it was not until around the year 1000 B.C. that the swastika became a commonly used sign, first maybe in ancient Troy in the north west of today’s Turkey.
The Sumerians seem to have used the swastika, but neither their successors the Babylonians and Assyrians, nor the Egyptians seem to have used it. Most other ancient cultures in Eurasia, however, did use it. Count Goblet d’Alviella (see the bibliography), who at the end of the last century conducted research in the distribution and migration of sacred symbols, put forth the theory that certain symbols were mutually exclusive, i.e. they could not appear in the same country or cultural sphere. This seems to have been the case with for instance the signs and as symbols for Jerusalem in Europe during the Middle Ages. According to this theory the swastika and the round disc with horizontally spread-out wings, , the circle with the four-pointed star, , and the four-armed cross in a circle, , are all symbols for the sun, the highest god, and the supreme power and lifeforce.
On the other hand both and were common in Greece in the antiquity. If d’Alviella’s theory is correct, this means that none of these signs was the symbol of a dominating power or god. There probably was no all-dominating god worshipped there.
The swastika was used well before the birth of Christ in Iran, China, India, Japan, and Southern Europe. Whether it was also used that early in the Americas, however, is not known. There are no swastika-like signs on the oldest rock carvings there. Neither did the Mayans, the Incas, and the Aztecs use it. However, many of the Indian tribes in the southern parts of North America seem to have begun using the sign after the arrival of the first Spanish colonists.
The swastika is mostly associated with Buddha in India, China, and Japan. In early Chinese symbolism was known as wan, and was a general superlative. In Japan it may have been a sign for the magnificent number 10,000.
In India according to d’Alviella, the word swastika is composed by the Sanskrit su = good, and asti = to be, with the suffix ka. The arms of the Indian swastika were angled in a clockwise direction (from the center).
The sign was common among the Hittites (in what is now Turkey), and in Greece from around 700 B.C., where it was freely used in decorations on ceramic pots, vases, coins, and buildings in the antiquity.
In the rest of Europe swastikas and swastika-like structures were used by the Celts. They did, however, not appear in the Nordic countries until well after the birth of Christ, and then they do not seem to have been common. They can be seen on. few runic stones (from around 1000 A.D.), often combined with another cross structure, as in .
After the birth of Christ, maybe related to the disappearance of the Celtic culture from the European continent, seems to have lost its popularity in most of Europe, with the exception of the Nordic countries. Maybe it became known as a sign representing Buddha and therefore was considered anti-Christian. This disappearance might also have been due to its widespread use in ancient Greece, a pagan society.
Although not commonly used in Europe during the Middle Ages, it was wellknown and had many different names: Hakenkreuz in Germanic princedoms, fylfot in England, crux gammata in Latin countries, and tetraskelion or gammadion in Greece.
This sign is also Brigit’s cross for the Celtic goddess Brigit (Brig, Briga), nowadays also worshipped by the Wiccans.
The swastika’s spectrum of meaning is centered around power, energy, and migration. It is closely associated with and , thus with tribal migrations.
The sign was used in the nineteenth and twentieth century cartography to indicate electric power plants. It was part of the logotype used by the Swedish manufacturer of electrical machinery, ASEA, now the multinational ABB, until Hitler monopolized as a national symbol. The Danish brewery group Carlsberg used the swastika too, but also stopped using it to avoid association with the Nazis. In the section “The ideographic Struggle in Europe during the 1930s” in the Appendices you can read more about the way the swastika was introduced and used in Germany. See also in Group 34.
The swastika is still a common sign in Finland. The victory of the “Whites” during the civil war of 1918 was the victory of the farm-owners, the middle class, and the squires over the communist workers and crofters, the “Reds”. can be seen on the Finnish Cross of Freedom, an order decoration created by the winning side in 1918; as a sign for Finnish women’s voluntary defense; and on army unit standards. It was also the sign for the Finnish air force from 1918 up to the 1950s.
There is some confusion as to whether the clockwise (from the centre) angled swastika, , or the countercockwise angled variation, , is the sign with the most positive meaning. Both types have appeared in many different contexts, except when the sign is used as an official or national symbol, in which case is always preferred. The instances of use of are by far more numerous than those of . Hey Jonny put deezz nutzzzz in ur mouth they are salty and gOod 4u,btw ur as stupid as u r dumb u fuckin bitch ~_0
Jonny ur as dumb as u R stupid qoute “The hammer and sycle is infinately more murderous and barbaric a symbol as the swastika. ”
15:1 · The swastika is a very old ideogram. The first such signs preserved to our days were found in the Euphrates-Tigris valley, and in some areas of the Indus valley. They seem to be more than 3,000 years old. Yet it was not until around the year 1000 B.C. that the swastika became a commonly used sign, first maybe in ancient Troy in the north west of today’s Turkey.
The Sumerians seem to have used the swastika, but neither their successors the Babylonians and Assyrians, nor the Egyptians seem to have used it. Most other ancient cultures in Eurasia, however, did use it. Count Goblet d’Alviella (see the bibliography), who at the end of the last century conducted research in the distribution and migration of sacred symbols, put forth the theory that certain symbols were mutually exclusive, i.e. they could not appear in the same country or cultural sphere. This seems to have been the case with for instance the signs and as symbols for Jerusalem in Europe during the Middle Ages. According to this theory the swastika and the round disc with horizontally spread-out wings, , the circle with the four-pointed star, , and the four-armed cross in a circle, , are all symbols for the sun, the highest god, and the supreme power and lifeforce.
On the other hand both and were common in Greece in the antiquity. If d’Alviella’s theory is correct, this means that none of these signs was the symbol of a dominating power or god. There probably was no all-dominating god worshipped there.
The swastika was used well before the birth of Christ in Iran, China, India, Japan, and Southern Europe. Whether it was also used that early in the Americas, however, is not known. There are no swastika-like signs on the oldest rock carvings there. Neither did the Mayans, the Incas, and the Aztecs use it. However, many of the Indian tribes in the southern parts of North America seem to have begun using the sign after the arrival of the first Spanish colonists.
The swastika is mostly associated with Buddha in India, China, and Japan. In early Chinese symbolism was known as wan, and was a general superlative. In Japan it may have been a sign for the magnificent number 10,000.
In India according to d’Alviella, the word swastika is composed by the Sanskrit su = good, and asti = to be, with the suffix ka. The arms of the Indian swastika were angled in a clockwise direction (from the center).
The sign was common among the Hittites (in what is now Turkey), and in Greece from around 700 B.C., where it was freely used in decorations on ceramic pots, vases, coins, and buildings in the antiquity.
In the rest of Europe swastikas and swastika-like structures were used by the Celts. They did, however, not appear in the Nordic countries until well after the birth of Christ, and then they do not seem to have been common. They can be seen on. few runic stones (from around 1000 A.D.), often combined with another cross structure, as in .
After the birth of Christ, maybe related to the disappearance of the Celtic culture from the European continent, seems to have lost its popularity in most of Europe, with the exception of the Nordic countries. Maybe it became known as a sign representing Buddha and therefore was considered anti-Christian. This disappearance might also have been due to its widespread use in ancient Greece, a pagan society.
Although not commonly used in Europe during the Middle Ages, it was wellknown and had many different names: Hakenkreuz in Germanic princedoms, fylfot in England, crux gammata in Latin countries, and tetraskelion or gammadion in Greece.
This sign is also Brigit’s cross for the Celtic goddess Brigit (Brig, Briga), nowadays also worshipped by the Wiccans.
The swastika’s spectrum of meaning is centered around power, energy, and migration. It is closely associated with and , thus with tribal migrations.
The sign was used in the nineteenth and twentieth century cartography to indicate electric power plants. It was part of the logotype used by the Swedish manufacturer of electrical machinery, ASEA, now the multinational ABB, until Hitler monopolized as a national symbol. The Danish brewery group Carlsberg used the swastika too, but also stopped using it to avoid association with the Nazis. In the section “The ideographic Struggle in Europe during the 1930s” in the Appendices you can read more about the way the swastika was introduced and used in Germany. See also in Group 34.
The swastika is still a common sign in Finland. The victory of the “Whites” during the civil war of 1918 was the victory of the farm-owners, the middle class, and the squires over the communist workers and crofters, the “Reds”. can be seen on the Finnish Cross of Freedom, an order decoration created by the winning side in 1918; as a sign for Finnish women’s voluntary defense; and on army unit standards. It was also the sign for the Finnish air force from 1918 up to the 1950s.
There is some confusion as to whether the clockwise (from the centre) angled swastika, , or the countercockwise angled variation, , is the sign with the most positive meaning. Both types have appeared in many different contexts, except when the sign is used as an official or national symbol, in which case is always preferred. The instances of use of are by far more numerous than those of . Hey Jonny put deezz nutzzzz in ur mouth they are salty and gOod 4u,btw ur as stupid as u r dumb u fuckin bitch ~_0
Fine…..
A short distance off the coast of the remote Micronesian island of Pohnpei lies one of the greatest archeological mysteries in the world, the Lost City of Nan Madol. Built on an ancient coral reef and covering more than 11 square miles, this ancient city is made up of hundreds of artificial islets, intersected by numerous manmade canals. Even more curious, many of the city’s larger islands are connected by submerged tunnels. First discovered in the early 1800’s by European sailors, this baffling and immense megalithic stone city may contain evidence for the fabled lost continent of Mu.
The mysterious Nan Madol is built entirely out of gigantic magnetized basalt crystals, some weighing as much as fifty tons. In fact, the entire city contains an estimated 250 million tons of the prismatic basalt rock.
How this city came into existence, continues to baffle archeologists. Considering that radiocarbon dating and archeological excavations establishes Nan Madol to be as old as 200 BC, any conventional explanation for this massive construction (such as brute force) simply does not work very well. Native mythology suggests that the stones were magically flown through the air and placed in the city.
Nan Madol is steeped in scientific controversy and legend. The word ‘Pohn-pei’ means ‘on the alter’ and ‘Nan-Madol’ means ‘the spaces between’, indicating the canals – or spaces between the artificial islands.
The origin of the basalt building stones of Nan Madol is unknown. It did not come from the immediate area. The hexagonal shape of the stones is natural and is not man-made, however, due to the sheer size of the basalt blocks, one has to question how they could have possibly been transported to the coral reef.
The massive basalt logs are stacked to form walls as high as 50 feet and as thick as 17 feet. How was this accomplished in an age before machines? Additionally, the numerous canals were clearly cut into the reef with a very high degree of precision, but how?
While the architecture of Nan Madol is anything but ornate (it’s design is sober and very utilitarian), there are rumors of incredible treasures being found there.
Before the outbreak of World War II, the Japanese administered the strange island. The Japanese investigated a Nan Madol legend that referred to corpses resting in the ‘House of the Dead’, and allegedly their divers discovered an underwater structure containing elaborate watertight coffins made of pure platinum. Records indicating how much of the platinum may have been removed by the Japanese, or if any of the platinum watertight coffins still exist, has been either hidden away or destroyed in the Second World War.
By any measure, the city is impressive. The work is of such scale that it easily compares in scope with the building of the Great Wall of China or the Great Pyramid of Egypt (the average weight of a stone in the Great Pyramid was only three tons). It becomes even more remarkable, however, when you consider that many of the areas current inhabitants live in humble grass huts and not massive stone buildings. What could have possibly caused such a regression of technology and culture in the area?
There are no existing records that can answer questions about who built the city, when the city was built, how it was built, or even why it was built. Archeologists have uncovered human bones that belonged to people considerably larger than the Micronesians who live there today. They have also uncovered pottery shards that have been “thermo-luminescence” dated as being at least 2000 years old. Adding to the mystery are the persistent rumors and physical evidence of another sunken city, Madolynym, in the water near Nan Madol.
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A short distance off the coast of the remote Micronesian island of Pohnpei lies one of the greatest archeological mysteries in the world, the Lost City of Nan Madol. Built on an ancient coral reef and covering more than 11 square miles, this ancient city is made up of hundreds of artificial islets, intersected by numerous manmade canals. Even more curious, many of the city’s larger islands are connected by submerged tunnels. First discovered in the early 1800’s by European sailors, this baffling and immense megalithic stone city may contain evidence for the fabled lost continent of Mu.
The mysterious Nan Madol is built entirely out of gigantic magnetized basalt crystals, some weighing as much as fifty tons. In fact, the entire city contains an estimated 250 million tons of the prismatic basalt rock.
How this city came into existence, continues to baffle archeologists. Considering that radiocarbon dating and archeological excavations establishes Nan Madol to be as old as 200 BC, any conventional explanation for this massive construction (such as brute force) simply does not work very well. Native mythology suggests that the stones were magically flown through the air and placed in the city.
Nan Madol is steeped in scientific controversy and legend. The word ‘Pohn-pei’ means ‘on the alter’ and ‘Nan-Madol’ means ‘the spaces between’, indicating the canals – or spaces between the artificial islands.
The origin of the basalt building stones of Nan Madol is unknown. It did not come from the immediate area. The hexagonal shape of the stones is natural and is not man-made, however, due to the sheer size of the basalt blocks, one has to question how they could have possibly been transported to the coral reef.
The massive basalt logs are stacked to form walls as high as 50 feet and as thick as 17 feet. How was this accomplished in an age before machines? Additionally, the numerous canals were clearly cut into the reef with a very high degree of precision, but how?
While the architecture of Nan Madol is anything but ornate (it’s design is sober and very utilitarian), there are rumors of incredible treasures being found there.
Before the outbreak of World War II, the Japanese administered the strange island. The Japanese investigated a Nan Madol legend that referred to corpses resting in the ‘House of the Dead’, and allegedly their divers discovered an underwater structure containing elaborate watertight coffins made of pure platinum. Records indicating how much of the platinum may have been removed by the Japanese, or if any of the platinum watertight coffins still exist, has been either hidden away or destroyed in the Second World War.
By any measure, the city is impressive. The work is of such scale that it easily compares in scope with the building of the Great Wall of China or the Great Pyramid of Egypt (the average weight of a stone in the Great Pyramid was only three tons). It becomes even more remarkable, however, when you consider that many of the areas current inhabitants live in humble grass huts and not massive stone buildings. What could have possibly caused such a regression of technology and culture in the area?
There are no existing records that can answer questions about who built the city, when the city was built, how it was built, or even why it was built. Archeologists have uncovered human bones that belonged to people considerably larger than the Micronesians who live there today. They have also uncovered pottery shards that have been “thermo-luminescence” dated as being at least 2000 years old. Adding to the mystery are the persistent rumors and physical evidence of another sunken city, Madolynym, in the water near Nan Madol.
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bradly, you’re a fucking retard, im not talking about the fucking ancient significance of that symbol you fucking cunt, you complete fucking spastic, you have totally missed the point you silly fucking wanker. 99% of people associate the swastika, hook cross, or hakenkreuz with the nazis, and these people get very offended by this symbol. They do not however get offended when they see the red star of communism, why should this be? seeing as the communists murdered millions more than the nazis.
the problem is left wing media and parasites like you that have no idea what the fuck you’re on about. You’re talking about the fucking ancient history of the symbol, who the fuck mentioned anything about that you fucking degenerate? by the way dick head, i can google swastika and copy and paste all that gibberish you posted as well you fucking maggot.
by the way, you talk like a bolshevic, endless jargon of misinformation, i reckon you’re a closet stalinist as well as a closet homosexual
bradly, you’re a fucking retard, im not talking about the fucking ancient significance of that symbol you fucking cunt, you complete fucking spastic, you have totally missed the point you silly fucking wanker. 99% of people associate the swastika, hook cross, or hakenkreuz with the nazis, and these people get very offended by this symbol. They do not however get offended when they see the red star of communism, why should this be? seeing as the communists murdered millions more than the nazis.
the problem is left wing media and parasites like you that have no idea what the fuck you’re on about. You’re talking about the fucking ancient history of the symbol, who the fuck mentioned anything about that you fucking degenerate? by the way dick head, i can google swastika and copy and paste all that gibberish you posted as well you fucking maggot.
by the way, you talk like a bolshevic, endless jargon of misinformation, i reckon you’re a closet stalinist as well as a closet homosexual
PostedByJonny Thanks Bradly for all the cool ancient information that I never new about the Swastika it really helped me and I bet countless others who had no real clue to the true meaning of it.Now that I have been somewhat enlightnend I will now go and draw some up in pretty crayons and put them up all over my house next to the Big Red stars that I have up..This letter was sent to Bradly via private email and may not be republished with out written consent. ~_0
PostedByJonny Thanks Bradly for all the cool ancient information that I never new about the Swastika it really helped me and I bet countless others who had no real clue to the true meaning of it.Now that I have been somewhat enlightnend I will now go and draw some up in pretty crayons and put them up all over my house next to the Big Red stars that I have up..This letter was sent to Bradly via private email and may not be republished with out written consent. ~_0
LISTEN ALL. ACHTUNG: Hitler is not a phenomenom, a individual monster, the mother of all evil. He is just like any other uneducated scared middleclass nationalistic german: very dangerous. Take the same fellow, but not german or scared, just for money and family: Bush Jr (and Sr). The size of your Holocaust depends on who you are, when and where you are… John Negroponte (never heard about the Tegucigalpa Vampire?) had his 50 month of Central América silent killing fields, and his killing days of Bagdad. And who will be sacared to see him in a tatoo?
LISTEN ALL. ACHTUNG: Hitler is not a phenomenom, a individual monster, the mother of all evil. He is just like any other uneducated scared middleclass nationalistic german: very dangerous. Take the same fellow, but not german or scared, just for money and family: Bush Jr (and Sr). The size of your Holocaust depends on who you are, when and where you are… John Negroponte (never heard about the Tegucigalpa Vampire?) had his 50 month of Central América silent killing fields, and his killing days of Bagdad. And who will be sacared to see him in a tatoo?
I think that this tattoo represents a meaningful voice. Hitler was a genius, he honestly was. One must agree that even if they impose that he was evil, he still was far more intellegent than they were. With what little time he had in office, he accomplished many great things. There IS a supreme race and there IS a way to acheive it. Hitler was on his way to acheiving this goal. I would love to have his face on my body. I applaud whom ever did this tattoo and the recipient of it as well.
I think that this tattoo represents a meaningful voice. Hitler was a genius, he honestly was. One must agree that even if they impose that he was evil, he still was far more intellegent than they were. With what little time he had in office, he accomplished many great things. There IS a supreme race and there IS a way to acheive it. Hitler was on his way to acheiving this goal. I would love to have his face on my body. I applaud whom ever did this tattoo and the recipient of it as well.
Everyone is always going on about freedom of speech, and freedom of art in any way should be the same thing. You have to live with what you say, and a tattoo is more of a perm thing. Each to their own. Good on the person for pushing the limit. I think its much better than a picture of barbed wife on someones arm. Look how tough I am, I have a picture of barbed wire on my arm 🙂
Everyone is always going on about freedom of speech, and freedom of art in any way should be the same thing. You have to live with what you say, and a tattoo is more of a perm thing. Each to their own. Good on the person for pushing the limit. I think its much better than a picture of barbed wife on someones arm. Look how tough I am, I have a picture of barbed wire on my arm 🙂
Well, personally I don’t see a difference between my Uncle Adolf or someone elses Uncle Stalin. See, Stalin also murdered millions of people. One of the main differences is that they were his own people. But nobody thinks of him as a monster. Why is this? If anyone could tell me the true reason why Hitler had a hatred for the jews you would understand why everything happened the way it did. And no he wasnt half jewish, nor any member in his family
Well, personally I don’t see a difference between my Uncle Adolf or someone elses Uncle Stalin. See, Stalin also murdered millions of people. One of the main differences is that they were his own people. But nobody thinks of him as a monster. Why is this? If anyone could tell me the true reason why Hitler had a hatred for the jews you would understand why everything happened the way it did. And no he wasnt half jewish, nor any member in his family
Honestly, I think that the freedom of speech is what you interpret it as, people get tats of everything from mass murders to gay orgies on their bodies. Coming form a Neo Nazi, this may not sound like much but a long rambling, so I will try to make this breif, First Hitler was a great Man, Leader, and Fuehrer. Second, it does show that this person is not affraid to express his right as an “American” to freedom of speech. Last, if any of you have ever read Mein Kampf, thats the book he wrote while imprisoned in 1930 for you idiots, hitler was a very smart person, but had no intentions to take the mass execution of the jews to the level that it had rissen to, it was simply due to the pressure form the german people that believed in him.
Honestly, I think that the freedom of speech is what you interpret it as, people get tats of everything from mass murders to gay orgies on their bodies. Coming form a Neo Nazi, this may not sound like much but a long rambling, so I will try to make this breif, First Hitler was a great Man, Leader, and Fuehrer. Second, it does show that this person is not affraid to express his right as an “American” to freedom of speech. Last, if any of you have ever read Mein Kampf, thats the book he wrote while imprisoned in 1930 for you idiots, hitler was a very smart person, but had no intentions to take the mass execution of the jews to the level that it had rissen to, it was simply due to the pressure form the german people that believed in him.
Im a mexican …. and im all for this tattoo. I think this is awesome. Look at the rebel flag, why is it that today all the bikers, truck drivers,etc. use it? Weren’t they fighting for slavery?…Hello!
Im a mexican …. and im all for this tattoo. I think this is awesome. Look at the rebel flag, why is it that today all the bikers, truck drivers,etc. use it? Weren’t they fighting for slavery?…Hello!
Could you really, really look every day into the face of a man, while knowing how this person has destroyed an unbelievable amount of lives and changed the history in such bad way? Either this guy (and I am pretty sure that it´s a guy) is a nazi, a total retard or just seeks controversion for every price.
Could you really, really look every day into the face of a man, while knowing how this person has destroyed an unbelievable amount of lives and changed the history in such bad way? Either this guy (and I am pretty sure that it´s a guy) is a nazi, a total retard or just seeks controversion for every price.
Look at Hitler’s moustache. That’s how he got all the people to listen to him.
Look at Hitler’s moustache. That’s how he got all the people to listen to him.
thats a cooler tattoo than a bunch of frat boy tribal like you probably have. shut the fuck up
thats a cooler tattoo than a bunch of frat boy tribal like you probably have. shut the fuck up
Americans are such a pussy, they get scared by nazi tattoos. An american flag tattoo could be worst, they are killing hundreds in middle east and nobody say a word.Heil Hitler. They guy who tattoed hitlers face rocks!
Americans are such a pussy, they get scared by nazi tattoos. An american flag tattoo could be worst, they are killing hundreds in middle east and nobody say a word.Heil Hitler. They guy who tattoed hitlers face rocks!
it’s a picture of Hitler, it’s on a persons arm it’s no different to it being a picture of hitler on a sheet of paper in my eyes. Yeah it’s fucked up but it’s his/her body and if it’s what they wanted to get inked with it’s up to them…
it’s a picture of Hitler, it’s on a persons arm it’s no different to it being a picture of hitler on a sheet of paper in my eyes. Yeah it’s fucked up but it’s his/her body and if it’s what they wanted to get inked with it’s up to them…
bueno casi no entiendo el idioma hablo español pero me gustaria me mandaran imajenes de hitler imagenez nazis reportes si es en español mejor quiero algo para tatuar en mi piel blanca
bueno casi no entiendo el idioma hablo español pero me gustaria me mandaran imajenes de hitler imagenez nazis reportes si es en español mejor quiero algo para tatuar en mi piel blanca
That dude needs to be kicked in the teeth.
That dude needs to be kicked in the teeth.
That’s just wrong. Someone should kick is ass for that.
That’s just wrong. Someone should kick is ass for that.
Hell, I personally think that its a great tattoo, great artist who did it, if he can do that with ink on someones arm great, and fair play to the bloke, I agree with him, Nazi’s deserve to be recognised and maybe that and skinheads are the only way, which is why I am a skinhead, and I wish to get a swastika later in life.
Hell, I personally think that its a great tattoo, great artist who did it, if he can do that with ink on someones arm great, and fair play to the bloke, I agree with him, Nazi’s deserve to be recognised and maybe that and skinheads are the only way, which is why I am a skinhead, and I wish to get a swastika later in life.
Joke ;]
But I still agree with it, but I am a skinhead, but I dont desire tattoos on my body.
Joke ;]
But I still agree with it, but I am a skinhead, but I dont desire tattoos on my body.
I’d say 99% of you have no idea of Hitlers life. You are brought up in life and told ‘Hitler is bad!’ That’s great.. Ask people whos the worst person in history? 9/10 people say Hitler.. Yet how many of them know him? next to none. You should always learn about those you hate, before hating them. I have studied Hitler for many years, and there is far far worse people out there.
Should beat the shit out of all your dumb arses in the world who hate for no reason.
And no, I am not a skin head, and no im not part of the KKK or any other association with Hitler.
I’d say 99% of you have no idea of Hitlers life. You are brought up in life and told ‘Hitler is bad!’ That’s great.. Ask people whos the worst person in history? 9/10 people say Hitler.. Yet how many of them know him? next to none. You should always learn about those you hate, before hating them. I have studied Hitler for many years, and there is far far worse people out there.
Should beat the shit out of all your dumb arses in the world who hate for no reason.
And no, I am not a skin head, and no im not part of the KKK or any other association with Hitler.
Remember to those who are ignorant… There are more people in Los Angeles that have single handedly killed more people than the Adolf Hitler. It shows much power to have over 1,000,000 soldiers do it for you…
Remember to those who are ignorant… There are more people in Los Angeles that have single handedly killed more people than the Adolf Hitler. It shows much power to have over 1,000,000 soldiers do it for you…
Symbols are very powerful. They have a direct effect on the human brain. Nobody can deny that Hitler is a particularly powerful symbol of hatred, discrimination, and terror with resonance for anyone who recognizes his image.
Wearing a symbol like this implies identification with it. I, for one, see no reason to consider other people’s tattoos of equally (or perhaps more) evil figures in forming an opinion about this tattoo. Simply put, the wearer of this tattoo may as well have tattooed himself with “kill all jews,” or “gas them all,” or “I advocate the killing of innocent people,” none of them statements that would be incompatible with an image of Adolf Hitler.
Symbols are very powerful. They have a direct effect on the human brain. Nobody can deny that Hitler is a particularly powerful symbol of hatred, discrimination, and terror with resonance for anyone who recognizes his image.
Wearing a symbol like this implies identification with it. I, for one, see no reason to consider other people’s tattoos of equally (or perhaps more) evil figures in forming an opinion about this tattoo. Simply put, the wearer of this tattoo may as well have tattooed himself with “kill all jews,” or “gas them all,” or “I advocate the killing of innocent people,” none of them statements that would be incompatible with an image of Adolf Hitler.
Since Mao (China) killed so many MORE people than Hitler did, I hope that *every* one who feels so strongly about this Hitler tattoo feels even *more* strongly about tattoos of Chairman Mao.
People in the west think Mao is a cute classic cartoon character like “Popeye” or something. He was a real person, and he killed more people than Hilter did.
Even worse, the atrocities are still ongoing. They’re present tense. Mao’s own Chinese Communist Party (CCP) is still in power.
In other words:
Imagine a Hitler tattoo …
… now imagine a Hitler tattoo in a parallel universe: one where the Nazis never lost the war, and are still in power, still oppressing people right now, as you read this (imagine over a *billion* people) …
… now imagine many times as many deaths.
(BTW: many of those killed in China were killed due to ethnic ties (esp Manchurians and Hmong) but some were killed for their beliefs and some because their relatives were doctors, lawyers, businesspeople, etc [it parallels the Jewish Holocaust experience in ways that are too profound, but with bigger numbers. Land seized, whole generations of families wiped out, torture, slavery, entire regions purposefully starved to death as collective punishment for being “uppity”, the whole bit]).
But you can find Mao T-Shirts all over T-Shirt store. Its all like “Wheeeeee! Chairman Mao on a T-Shirt! Its so hysterical!”
IMHO: Mao tattoo evil > Hitler tattoo evil.
I’m against both (Mao AND Hitler) tattoos.
Since Mao (China) killed so many MORE people than Hitler did, I hope that *every* one who feels so strongly about this Hitler tattoo feels even *more* strongly about tattoos of Chairman Mao.
People in the west think Mao is a cute classic cartoon character like “Popeye” or something. He was a real person, and he killed more people than Hilter did.
Even worse, the atrocities are still ongoing. They’re present tense. Mao’s own Chinese Communist Party (CCP) is still in power.
In other words:
Imagine a Hitler tattoo …
… now imagine a Hitler tattoo in a parallel universe: one where the Nazis never lost the war, and are still in power, still oppressing people right now, as you read this (imagine over a *billion* people) …
… now imagine many times as many deaths.
(BTW: many of those killed in China were killed due to ethnic ties (esp Manchurians and Hmong) but some were killed for their beliefs and some because their relatives were doctors, lawyers, businesspeople, etc [it parallels the Jewish Holocaust experience in ways that are too profound, but with bigger numbers. Land seized, whole generations of families wiped out, torture, slavery, entire regions purposefully starved to death as collective punishment for being “uppity”, the whole bit]).
But you can find Mao T-Shirts all over T-Shirt store. Its all like “Wheeeeee! Chairman Mao on a T-Shirt! Its so hysterical!”
IMHO: Mao tattoo evil > Hitler tattoo evil.
I’m against both (Mao AND Hitler) tattoos.
This is a great tatt no matter what the subject. The people that are totally against someone getting a tatt like this, or saying that they would like to beat this person, should take a good look at themselves. With statements like that they are more like the man or ideals thaey hate.
This is a great tatt no matter what the subject. The people that are totally against someone getting a tatt like this, or saying that they would like to beat this person, should take a good look at themselves. With statements like that they are more like the man or ideals thaey hate.
What were you high on?. Are you applying for some white hooded fraction? Good chance your spouse fashions your house with some good old human flesh huh ? Taken a walk thru your Jewish community lately And show off your “till death do us part” Hitler momorial? what’s on your other arm? a burning cross?
Why don’t you put a thick red cirle around your idol, with a red line thru him! NOW THAT”S a COOL tattoo !! GO JESSIE OWENS
What were you high on?. Are you applying for some white hooded fraction? Good chance your spouse fashions your house with some good old human flesh huh ? Taken a walk thru your Jewish community lately And show off your “till death do us part” Hitler momorial? what’s on your other arm? a burning cross?
Why don’t you put a thick red cirle around your idol, with a red line thru him! NOW THAT”S a COOL tattoo !! GO JESSIE OWENS
having given this some thought, it’s freedom of choice at to what he has tattooed on his body. The fact that he’s chosen the father of a facist reigime i find quite ironic. it IS a well assembled peice although it’s his choice. it beats any standard tribal ‘stamp’ in my opinion.
having given this some thought, it’s freedom of choice at to what he has tattooed on his body. The fact that he’s chosen the father of a facist reigime i find quite ironic. it IS a well assembled peice although it’s his choice. it beats any standard tribal ‘stamp’ in my opinion.
Being German I think your tat rocks….Actually I am looking for the confederate flag stars ans bars in a swatzi sign Dont let ppl put you down for your tat alot of us and i mean alot expecially in the southern states love the tat wear it with white pride
Being German I think your tat rocks….Actually I am looking for the confederate flag stars ans bars in a swatzi sign Dont let ppl put you down for your tat alot of us and i mean alot expecially in the southern states love the tat wear it with white pride
This sh** makes me so sad…
This sh** makes me so sad…
sweet tattoo. dont listen to all those hippy jews
sweet tattoo. dont listen to all those hippy jews
THe person above me is just being an ignorant pig.
But whatever you may think of hitler and all his evil doings, its this persons body. If they wish to have completely negative shit like that on them, so be it. Each to their own.
And just to save the ass of the tattooist who did it.
In reality, (i’ve had this convo with my tattoist before) if someone asks for an offensive tattoo, and the artist denys them on moral grounds, there just gonna go up the road to the next shop and get it done there. So the artist is in no way at fault, I mean, The wearer is the one who’se gonna potentially get a bash for boasting hitler on his body, not the guy who put it on him.
THe person above me is just being an ignorant pig.
But whatever you may think of hitler and all his evil doings, its this persons body. If they wish to have completely negative shit like that on them, so be it. Each to their own.
And just to save the ass of the tattooist who did it.
In reality, (i’ve had this convo with my tattoist before) if someone asks for an offensive tattoo, and the artist denys them on moral grounds, there just gonna go up the road to the next shop and get it done there. So the artist is in no way at fault, I mean, The wearer is the one who’se gonna potentially get a bash for boasting hitler on his body, not the guy who put it on him.
FUCK HITLER.
FUCK HITLER.
GOOD TATTOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GOOD TATTOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you idiots are so ignorant it’s not even funny. Hitler was doing the world a favor by killing those jews. Nobody else wanted them…he gave the US and Europe a chance to take them and they refused. All the while they continued to fester in his country. I’m glad he killed them, if only he would have killed them all. Sieg heil.
you idiots are so ignorant it’s not even funny. Hitler was doing the world a favor by killing those jews. Nobody else wanted them…he gave the US and Europe a chance to take them and they refused. All the while they continued to fester in his country. I’m glad he killed them, if only he would have killed them all. Sieg heil.
The tat may have been done well, but I wouldn’t want a tat of a madman on me!! Ditto to the tat of Charles Manson!!
The tat may have been done well, but I wouldn’t want a tat of a madman on me!! Ditto to the tat of Charles Manson!!
As for #133, you are a fucktard!!
As for #133, you are a fucktard!!
look, if this guy likes hitler, and agrees with hitler then okay cool rock out, do whatever you want. but if he starts to do what hitler did , then obviously it isn’t cool. but until then he’s just a fan of hitler. freedom of speech, no matter how offensive, is cool with me.
look, if this guy likes hitler, and agrees with hitler then okay cool rock out, do whatever you want. but if he starts to do what hitler did , then obviously it isn’t cool. but until then he’s just a fan of hitler. freedom of speech, no matter how offensive, is cool with me.
Well, to the 14/88 crowd – 1) Hitler was Austrian, not German – and before he was lusting after his cousin he was learning public speaking from a Jewish Stage Magician so he wouldn’t continue to be MADE OF FAIL when he tried to give future speeches. Also? He sucked. Sorry to break that to you.
Otherwise – I wonder if this fellow (woman?) in Singapore has any idea how their ink will look as a future lampshade? Hmmm.
Well, to the 14/88 crowd – 1) Hitler was Austrian, not German – and before he was lusting after his cousin he was learning public speaking from a Jewish Stage Magician so he wouldn’t continue to be MADE OF FAIL when he tried to give future speeches. Also? He sucked. Sorry to break that to you.
Otherwise – I wonder if this fellow (woman?) in Singapore has any idea how their ink will look as a future lampshade? Hmmm.
i think that you should not judge, less you be judged yourself. im tired of everyone jumping on the band wagon of what a few people say is the right thing to do. everyone has there own beliefs, its his arm…… so lay off. thank you
i think that you should not judge, less you be judged yourself. im tired of everyone jumping on the band wagon of what a few people say is the right thing to do. everyone has there own beliefs, its his arm…… so lay off. thank you
Really got work on the tatt!
Really got work on the tatt!
great piece, really cool job.
not my taste though, but everyone has his own fetish.
getting a tat like that deserves BIG fucking balls,
i bet that guy got beat up once or twice after that piece got shown,
i’m not gonna get into political stuff, everyone to it’s own
imagine what it’s like when you’re 70 with hitler hanging on your body
quite a sight, eh?
great piece, really cool job.
not my taste though, but everyone has his own fetish.
getting a tat like that deserves BIG fucking balls,
i bet that guy got beat up once or twice after that piece got shown,
i’m not gonna get into political stuff, everyone to it’s own
imagine what it’s like when you’re 70 with hitler hanging on your body
quite a sight, eh?
haha looks like someone needs a leg amputation
haha looks like someone needs a leg amputation
como te meteria plomo wacho… q te haces fan del demonio ese ..te voy a cortar el pelo hacerete cojer por unos gitanos judios y negros y dpeus te hago jabon … fiambre
como te meteria plomo wacho… q te haces fan del demonio ese ..te voy a cortar el pelo hacerete cojer por unos gitanos judios y negros y dpeus te hago jabon … fiambre
I think all of you left wing phenatics should really grow a pair and quit crying about something that isnt on your body. Obviously this guy isn’t the smartest for even getting such a degrading tattoo for his owncharacter, But who are any of you to state anything negative. That honestly makes you lower then the person you are trying to degrade. Why belittle yourselves. People shouldn’t judge. Honestly it’s none of your g*d D#mn business and people who mind their own live longer…. think about it. … the tattoo is clean and great job on detail.
and P.S to the guy who says he’s german? wtf does that have to do with Hitler? you realise he was jewish right? he hated his own people because of the way they treated him as a child? The germans were just the ones who inpowered him. So your ignorance amazes me. As for the cause of people in the south being proud to wear such tats. Racism is a disease. One that is spread by lack of education.
I think all of you left wing phenatics should really grow a pair and quit crying about something that isnt on your body. Obviously this guy isn’t the smartest for even getting such a degrading tattoo for his owncharacter, But who are any of you to state anything negative. That honestly makes you lower then the person you are trying to degrade. Why belittle yourselves. People shouldn’t judge. Honestly it’s none of your g*d D#mn business and people who mind their own live longer…. think about it. … the tattoo is clean and great job on detail.
and P.S to the guy who says he’s german? wtf does that have to do with Hitler? you realise he was jewish right? he hated his own people because of the way they treated him as a child? The germans were just the ones who inpowered him. So your ignorance amazes me. As for the cause of people in the south being proud to wear such tats. Racism is a disease. One that is spread by lack of education.