London (Ontario) is a rough town

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Shannon Larratt is the founder of BME (1994) and its former editor and publisher. After a four year hiatus between 2008 and 2012, Shannon is back adding his commentary to ModBlog. It should be noted that any comments in these entries are the opinion of Shannon Larratt and may or may not be shared by BMEzine.com LLC or the other staff or members of BME. Entry text Copyright © Shannon Larratt. Reproduced under license by BMEzine.com LLC. Pictures may be copyright to their respective owners. You can also find Shannon at Zentastic or on Facebook.

67 thoughts on “London (Ontario) is a rough town

  1. PS. Why I’m posting this:
    I always find it interesting the poses/looks people choose when they submit piercing photos; that is, what secondary statements independent of the documentation of the piercing are being made.

  2. one would hope its makeup. The other would hope that London doesnt turn into the new scarborough. (Edge of Scarberia yay!)

  3. I saw a picture in her Flickr and it said she was practicing her “bruise making skills”.
    So I assume that it is make-up.

  4. Looks like she only needs to be told one more time!!!…lolz
    sorry that was a bad joke :(

    Really tho, thats not real, gotta be makeup…bruises aren’t that color only and is too dark in the wrong spot to be a black eye.

  5. There’s something oddly beautiful about that picture…Mostly because I think it’s makeup…And Know how friggin’ hardcore London is hehe.

  6. What do you tell a girl with two black eyes? Nothing you already done told her twice! Har har har.

  7. woah thats some mad skill
    london is sketchy though, but i love it anyway. (except all the one way streets)

  8. The lip doesn’t go that black, darling… other than that, good job on make-up :) Nice piercing too :D

  9. I had to look twice at this one!!! My ex did this to me once, and I got po’d and gave him one in return. lol!!!!

  10. I’ve seen really injuries like this on my friend.
    She went to a lot of shows on the weekend and the mash pits can get pretty dangerous. But she also got hit in the face with a guitar once too.
    Lucky she never lost any of her piercings.

  11. Faux female-violence shots used as entertainment !!

    A very very low point indeed.

    Come on Shannon matey, this is just crass.

  12. I’m glad to learn that its fake.

    It isn’t crass to post pretend violence submitted by the person pictured. I mean, she did submit it to a website to be posted on the internet for people to see.
    If someone had beat her up and submitted pictures it would definitely be time to get our panties up in a twist.

    And, since its fake, its kinda hot.

  13. >>It isn’t crass to post pretend violence submitted by the person pictured.

    Wrong.

    Images (whether pretend or real) of beaten women only contribute to the culture of ignorance surrounding it. Take a look at the reactions from the usual suspects

    “I wont be able to masterbate(sic) to it then”
    “Shes(sic) very pretty. Bruises and all.”
    “What do you tell a girl with two black eyes? Nothing you already done told her twice! Har har har.”
    “I’ve always thought black eyes are kinda hot.”

    We know that the majority of Modblog contributors are low in intelligence but the reactions to this and previous similar entries show just how immature some of them are.

  14. I dunno, Giles. I think when it comes to what people find sexy no one should have any say as to whether it’s crass, wrong or immature. I mean, isn’t acceptance what this site is all about? Although we’re all entitled to our own opinions, so spout off all you want.
    I think it’s sexy myself, and I am a woman who enjoys getting black eyes from her boyfriend. Is it ignorant of me to go after something I like and to enjoy looking at it (albeit fake) in someone else? Since we know the back story of this photo, I don’t see how it’s contributing to cultural ignorance

  15. Giles, must you complain about everything?

    Cere is clearly joking, that “nothing you haven’t told her twice” joke is so old that I don’t even get offended by it anymore, and saying black eyes are hot doesn’t mean domestic (or whatever) abuse is hot. You can get a black eye from getting hit in the head with a piece of fruit. For reals.

    Does it get lonely up there on your high horse?

  16. Kelli – No offence Kelli but I don’t see the joke with regards to images of beaten women.

    Of course Cere was joking, he is part of the culture whereby violence against women is treated as a joke.

    I realise you may not see the harm in it but that does not mean it doesn’t exist.

  17. >>Giles, must you complain about everything?

    I don’t but I will speak out against ignorance, stupidity and the dumbing down of culture.

  18. I find the assumption that women mainly get black eyes from domestic abuse strangely offensive.

    We are not delicate flowers. Most of us love a bit of rough and tumble as much as any man. I’m always covered in bruises from adventures and gigs and I’d be pissed off to think anyone presumed they were from getting my arse kicked by some macho man.

    I’ll do the arse kicking thanks very much, and wear any bumps and scrapes I get along the way with pride.

  19. Nobody claimed “that women mainly get black eyes from domestic abuse “, that in itself was an assumption made on your part.

    I am against the culture of joviality that often accompanies images such as these. Also the image above is leading to a ‘preferred’ interpretation of it although it is polysemic image that allows the ‘artist’ to claim whatever message they choose. Essentially it clearly hints toward being a manufactured image of domestic abuse but with a small feeling of ambiguity to allow those responsible to distance themselves from responsibility.

  20. As far as I’m concerned if the person submitting the photo (as a female) is happy with the submission of a photo featuring bruises then there’s no problem. I wonder whether people would be in such a stink over a dude submitting a photo like this?

    Whatever, it’s a nice shot anyway.

  21. was she by any chance on the adelaide south? haha that bus scares me every single day of my life

  22. Surely context is everything, Giles? e.g. self submitted, acknowledgement that it’s makeup, Shannon’s FP comments on context…etc etc etc. It would be different if was actually about a beaten woman. Don’t be so reactionary.

  23. >> Surely context is everything, Giles?

    It certainly helps but she is still drawing attention (and being included in ModBlog) because she has painted herself up to look like a victim of domestic abuse.

  24. one of these days i should really figure out why i find black eyes so sexy. but until then, i’m happy in my ignorance.

  25. Giles – Surely you don’t think I’m suggesting that abuse is chic or positive in any way, or that posting this picture glorifies it?

  26. Giles, I’m confused as to how me posting makeup skills is insinuating that I am a victim of domestic abuse.
    Like others have stated, you wouldn’t be coming down as hard on a male if he had a black eye in a photo. There should be no difference unless I had stated this was a result of domestic abuse.
    And don’t feed me the line ‘a picture is worth a thousand words’ because there is already a caption stating that it is indeed fake.

  27. Um, why does a picture of a chick with bruises have to point to “female voilence”? Hell it could be badges of honor like “Fuck yeah I had fun the mosh pit” or maybe she just came back from a wrestling match. (Of course this is assuming we didn’t know she was praticing her make-up skills). There is in no way anything else in the photo giving one the idea of domestic violence. Some people just look for the worst in everything so they have something to complain about.

  28. And to expand on my thought, I think the people that look at this and automatically think domestic violence are extrememly sexist in the fact that they think that seem to only think of a bruised woman as someone who got their ass kicked by a man than someone who recieved her bruises in the name of fun or exercise.

  29. 1) By posting the picture up on ModBlog Shannon you are elevating it to a position where it IS being celebrated whether it was your intention or not. Again look at the first 20 odd comments and ask whether or not it has been taken as chic.

    2) Burcu – Irrespective of whether the picture is fake it is still meant to represent a female who has been beaten, hence the black eye and split lip. If your intention was to show anything else then you have not made it clear, the text is quite clear in what it is supposed to represent and the preferred interpretation is quite obvious.

    3) Pictures of women with bruises or pretend bruises do not make good pictures for the baying public to comment, wolf-whistle and assess.

    4)My own form of abstract expression has absolutely no basis in pretend violence whatsoever, it does not mimic the look of a beaten man.

    5) Violence against women is a very real and very structured part of society that requires sensitivity and maturity to address. This “make-up tip” and similar posed images posted here do NOTHING to redress or question the situation in any positive light. They simply demand attention whilst washing their hands of any responsibility.

  30. Giles, I’m going home tonight to drag my wife into the basement by her hair and viciously beat her within an inch of her life using wooden spoons. Why? Because I saw this picture on modblog and I think it will make her hotter.

  31. Yeah, and I might let my boyfriend beat me up so he can jackoff to my black eye.

    “We know that the majority of Modblog contributors are low in intelligence but the reactions to this and previous similar entries show just how immature some of them are.”

    insulting the audience isn’t really an effective way to get respect for your argument.

  32. Giles says: “We know that the majority of Modblog contributors are low in intelligence but the reactions to this and previous similar entries show just how immature some of them are.”

    I’d have to agree with gretta.
    I know that Giles could care less about who he steps on while making his points, and such comments clearly show that.
    The arguments lose major effectiveness since they’re shouted from the top of a very high horse. Most of us low-intelligence, immature, Neanderthals can’t make out a word your saying, Giles.

  33. Shhhhhhhmack…
    I like this, sorta has a “Twoface” Feel,a happy side and a unhappy side,looks like a smirk…the lighting emphasizes this,but maybe i made this up…
    i dont know what youre all arguing bout,couldny be half bothered to read it :D

  34. Shhhhhhhmack…
    I like this, sorta has a “Twoface” Feel,a happy side and a unhappy side,looks like a smirk…the lighting emphasizes this,but maybe i made this up…
    i dont know what youre all arguing bout,couldny be half bothered to read it :D

  35. Giles…did it ever occur to you that bruises can be procured in any way other than domestic violence? I mean, I’ve had my fair share of fights, and given my fair share of black eyes and split lips. I also used to box, and got some pretty nasty bruising from that…and yes I’m a woman. I fought with women, boxed with women etc. Why do you always assume that men are the only ones who would dare to hurt a woman? Heck, I got a black eye when I was swimming and someone kicked me in the face by accident. I am also a professional face-painter, for kids parties and theatre performances. Practicing and improving your make-up skills, and posting these for others to see does not, in any way, implicate or act as advocate to domestic violence. Having done make-up for a show about vampires I practiced on myself, and posted a very gory bruised eye, split lip and bloody nose on the internet so others could comment on whether it was convincing or not. It most definitely wasn’t posted in order to convince people that I was backing or making light of domestic violence. Think before you type such narrow-minded views my friend :)

  36. Lysisca – “Having done make-up for a show about vampires I practiced on myself, and posted a very gory bruised eye, split lip and bloody nose on the internet so others could comment on whether it was convincing or not.”

    Thank you, I was thinking of similar circumstances, but for someone who has actually done so to say it is even better. Now obviously from some of the first comments, it wasn’t obvious that it was makeup to everyone (I wasn’t sure either), which speaks well for her skill, so perhaps if it were better indicated from the go Giles wouldn’t have tried to make such a huge deal out of this. I don’t know the reasons behind Burcu practicing this particular use of makeup, but I certainly understand why she would display the pictures proudly, and see what the reactions are. I mean if it were for a specific reason, she shouldn’t leave her work untested until the last minute and hope she did well

    Now Giles, I don’t think your opinions on violence against women are wrong (I personally can’t stand to see a woman hurt, I know sexist and chauvinistic, but hey), but this really isn’t the place for your preaching and ranting since no one here is advocating, making light of, or in any way encouraging such violence. Sure there were a couple jokes made, but you took it way out of hand and try to make it seem like everyone could care less if women are beaten and abused. As I’ve read it, there are quite a few women on here that say they can take care of themselves and seem offended by your assumptions that you need to stand up for them.

    It seems like most of the time I see your comments here on Modblog, you’re stirring up anger and arguments, hardly the actions of someone as civilized and enlightened as you seem to try to portray yourself as. I’m not trying to offend you, there have been a few times that I’ve found your arguments and views to be solid and respectable, as I’m sure I would in this case if it were in the proper forum for the discussion you’re trying to have.

  37. It is clear that there is a LOT of work still to do with some people, it goes some way to further understanding why changes in society and it’s values takes a long time.

  38. Giles do you also believe pornography is degrading to women? Do you by any chance believe watching violence on TV makes you more likely to commit an assault or murder? Honestly you seem to be stirring up shit just to do it.

  39. It looks like she has something in her mouthe…to make her cheeks look swollen..

    Well I hope she does otherwise iv just jumped in feet first

  40. I’m afraid I gotta agree with Giles on the “told her twice” joke thing.

    Of course it’s a joke, but the fact that you’re supposed to know it’s a joke because it’s such a well-worn joke, and if you don’t laugh then you’re causing trouble or not “fitting in and going along, ha ha” disturbs me.

    I’m rather new to that joke (the first time I saw it was as a tattoo, in fact, and I had to go look it up because apparently I was the only one who didn’t get it) and so maybe it’s a bit fresh, but… yeah.

  41. Im new to IAM apologies for the double post..Giles you
    seem pretty smart and what not in your witty little answers…

    but, at the end of the day, SHE posted this picture to be published and viewed by the world….

    It was her decision, everyone is entitled to their opinion
    is it realy necessary to continuosly rip the ass hole out of what every single person says with your witty little remarks..

    bah, stop taking the fun out of BME

  42. Not to be a dick but as a makeup artist I think it’s a pretty alright job though if a black eye is old enough to be black then it would be pooling around the bottom of the eye and much less on the top. Blood + gravity = black eye.

    And violence against females is never a joke, my best friend works at a rape crisis center/women’s shelter and there’s a rise of young girls inflicting violence on each other in the high school age. I’m pretty PC but have a sense of humor until a joke is being made at a victim’s expense.

  43. This is ridiculous. This picture is cool, it doesnt say anything about domestic violence at all. What the hell is the problem? the reason problems go unsolved LIKE domestic violence is people are fighting the wrong battle. Stop arguing about an artsy picture on modblog that has nothing to do with what you’re fighting and go find a real problem to fight about.

  44. The reason that people assume this picture relates to domestic violence is because of the context of several recent modblog posts. The one by Lane with the “reversed roles” and the “Told her Twice” type tattoos. Domestic violence has been mocked repeatedly on Modblog and it’s disgusting.

  45. Err… I’d say the reason it suggests domestic violence is her facial expression. She doesn’t like like “SWEET! I just had so much fun in the pit!”.

    She looks like “My life sucks.”

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